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amigat 
Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 23-Apr-2016 10:23:20
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From: wales

Hi All
Do anyone know of a way to have switching system from a real floppy drive to the HCX floppy emulator drive on the internal port of the a1200 system,

what I mean is my current configure is df0 is a really drive and df1 on the same internal port is my HCX floppy emulator which work well, but how ever if I want to play floppy games then the HCX floppy emulator needs to be df0 not df1 as most games only work off df0

so is there a way to make a switch which I can switch between a real floppy drive and the HCX floppy emulator as df0 and hook a switch on the front of my tower case to switch between the 2 drives?

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Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 28-Apr-2016 19:10:56
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From: wales

@amigat

anyone?

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Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 28-Apr-2016 22:43:33
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Why not disconnect df0: what drive does that assign to the HXC? If you still want a real Amiga drive, use an external. On PCs the 2 head floppy cable had some crossover to determine which drive was which. Don't know if that works with Amiga's floppy interface.

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olegil 
Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 29-Apr-2016 10:50:30
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@amigat

I would have thought this was a lot of work, but apparently the A500 and the A2000 is wired the same way, so both SEL0 and SEL1 are on the internal 34 pin connector. Use a DPDT switch to select straight or swapped select pins, just follow this (but use a smaller DPDT):

http://www.instructables.com/id/HOW-TO%3A-Wire-a-DPDT-rocker-switch-for-reversing-po/

Then you obviously need to wire pin 10 pin 10 on one drive and pin 12 to pin 10 on the other. Possibly a crossed PC floppy cable will work, but I'm not 100% sure.

If your Amiga drive has a DS or SEL jumper, this can be used instead of crossing the wires in the previous paragraph.

Last edited by olegil on 29-Apr-2016 at 10:52 AM.

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Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 29-Apr-2016 19:49:16
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From: wales

@olegil

thanks for the feedback but I am not sure if you understand me

what I am going to do is a pcb for my hcx floppy drive and my real drive to switch between them as df0 only not df1

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Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 29-Apr-2016 20:20:11
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@amigat

Why on earth would you NOT want to have a df1 using the other drive? Considering the cost difference between a SPDT and a DPDT switch is literally sweet fanny adams.

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Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 29-Apr-2016 21:10:56
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From: wales

@olegil

as because there is no MTR line on the internal port for df1 only df0 which means the motor on the df1 drive will not spin that is why

Last edited by amigat on 29-Apr-2016 at 09:11 PM.

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olegil 
Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 30-Apr-2016 8:49:05
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@amigat

But an A2000 supports two floppies and I can only find one MTR signal on the 34 pin connector there as well.

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Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 30-Apr-2016 17:45:05
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@amigat

Can you configure it so that HCX is on DF0 and actual drive is on DF1? If that at all helped.

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Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 1-May-2016 12:37:43
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@amigat

Have you tried booting from df1 using the early start-up menu?

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Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 1-May-2016 16:31:58
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@amigat

Solution to your problem is probably these two devices here:

http://amigastore.eu/en/485-df0-selector.html

http://amigastore.eu/en/439-amiga-external-floppy-disk-drive-adapter-m2.html

Hope this helps.

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olegil 
Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 2-May-2016 13:31:01
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@Epsilon

Yeah, that seems about right for what he insists he wants (except I would still like to say that it would make more sense to SWAP them, so both are available in both settings, not just one at a time).

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Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 2-May-2016 17:58:10
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From: wales

@olegil

Quote:

olegil wrote:
@Epsilon

Yeah, that seems about right for what he insists he wants (except I would still like to say that it would make more sense to SWAP them, so both are available in both settings, not just one at a time).


well I am going to try and build a test board first who know if it works some of you mite want it

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olegil 
Re: Amiga 1200 internal Floppy port
Posted on 3-May-2016 9:45:46
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@amigat

Buying an experimental board from you versus buying a finished product from Amigakit if it's gonna do EXACTLY the same thing? Don't bet on it. Unless you actually want to make it BETTER by incorporating my suggestions, don't bother. Spend your money and time on something more worth while

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