I was talking yesterday with a person who is Linux user and I told him about all soap opera of Amiga History.
I recalled stories like Merlancia Affaire fake computer, with its wannabe 17 years old CEO telling stories he was 30, and had millions dollars to invest in new motherboards design, and also I made this linux guy laughing by recounting him the infamous scandal of that former Commodore executive who want to revive the brand, and he had contacted big money companies that were ready to finance return of CBM, but it seems he was sudden involved in a sexy scandal with a 16 years old stagist girl during a Computer Convention (?), so the tycoons abandoned him and renounced financing reviving Commodore.
I do not remember who he was, and when this happened.
Is there someone who can confirm this story and the people involved in it?

Last edited by Raffaele on 08-May-2016 at 07:07 PM.
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@Raffaele

You're not thinking of the Jim Collas incident at the Gateway Amiga Show in 1999 are you?

@Raffaele

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Raffaele wrote: I do not remember who he was, and when this happened. Is there someone who can confirm this story and the people involved in it?

Some people are telling a similar story about Jim Collas , he promised a resurrection of the Amiga brand for STBs and even as a desktop computer.

Some claimed he has lost his job at GateWay 2000 because of cheating with a young women others (including Petro Tyschenkov) are blaming Microsoft.

But this seems to be an hoax, if Gateway really wanted to develop an STB in great numbers, they would not have stopped because of some family affairs but on the other side, Microsoft never was in the STB business.

@OneTimer1

Microsoft is the go-to source of all evil among the tinfoil hat-wearing Amiga faithful. Let's face it: the Amiga likely didn't even register on their radar.

Whether Collas was fired for the rumored incident or not, it's clear that Gateway decided that the Amiga wasn't a viable line of business. So, they divested and then the worst case scenario unfolded: Amino.

Among others, I've always been disappointed that Collas wasn't able to determine direction. He was the strongest proponent of moving to a Linux-based kernel.

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@ne_one

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Microsoft is the go-to source of all evil among the tinfoil hat-wearing Amiga faithful. Let's face it: the Amiga likely didn't even register on their radar.

Microsoft no doubt was aware of the Amiga, as CBM was considering a transition to NT for the line before implosion.

And what they have made offers for in the past would surprise you.

You are right about Gateway though.
They, fairly quickly, decided not to pursue the market (although you have to question why they bought the rights in the first place).

@iggy

They bought it with the idea that they could use some of the software/hardware
in their "convergence" platform idea.

@ne_one

If Collas was pro Linux Kernel, then it is a benefit for Amiga he was fired...

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@Raffaele

And that's where we fundamentally disagree.

17 years later and the platform is still subsisting on Linux scraps but pretending otherwise.

@iggy

I'm not suggesting that Microsoft wasn't aware of the platform - some of their IP was licensed for the Amiga. But to suggest that Microsoft is in any way responsible for the fate of the system is silly.

Commodore clearly wasn't capable of carrying the vision forward and its successors were/are equally incapable.

@ne_one

Jim Collas is fired because he really believe in Amiga and i think also in his advertise of new Amiga product.
Gateway 2000 has no intention to produce hardware and software for Amiga

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ne_one wrote: @OneTimer1 Microsoft is the go-to source of all evil among the tinfoil hat-wearing Amiga faithful. Let's face it: the Amiga likely didn't even register on their radar.

So then why Microsoft was present in the auction for selling Commodore assets and scared to death any other possible buyers???

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ne_one wrote: @Raffaele And that's where we fundamentally disagree. 17 years later and the platform is still subsisting on Linux scraps but pretending otherwise.

This is why I disagree to your disagreement...

Give me any other kernel but Linux!

BeOS/Haiku or QNX had fitted better Amiga environment and APIs.

QNX is closed source and required a license, BeOS is closed source and retired from market but Haiku is Open Source.

Haiku boys are still struggling trying create a complete open clone of Haiku just as AROS with Amiga, as they are few people working on code...

But make a joint effort of two camps, Amiga and Haiku, an you will obtain a powerful alliance that will strike world of information technology.

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@Raffaele

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Raffaele wrote: So then why Microsoft was present in the auction for selling Commodore assets

Because of eventual patents... more often than not, companies buy other companies solely for the patents rather than for actual products. Infact sometimes these companies are bought off by financial funds that don't even produce anything at all.
This didn't happen to Commodore only, but - for example - also Palm and many others.

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@iggy

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iggy wrote: Microsoft no doubt was aware of the Amiga, as CBM was considering a transition to NT for the line before implosion.

I believe they weren't thinking of transitioning to the whole NT OS but adopting the "kernel" only... i think it was related to the option of switching Digital's Alpha platform (can't check now but Amiga History should have something on this subject).

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@Raffaele

This rings a bell wasn't it one of the girls from Annex at the World of Amiga show he apparently had an...encounter with?

Things continued to go downhill quickly after that anyway.

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