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g01df1sh 
IN or OUT EU
Posted on 22-May-2016 20:55:52
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Hi all

Was just wondering what effect if any leaving the EU would have on the current Amiga status?

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None.

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Thw End.

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Either way im OUT

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Since England has not adopted the Euro, not a lot.

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Drewlio77 
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Exactly. Been trying to tell people that here...

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A1200 
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Posted on 23-May-2016 3:35:41
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I am an "out". Despite the potential economic loss, I would still vote out. Why? Because they should have asked the UK voters before walking us into a political union. We voted for the single market not another parliament.

With the EU we put in a pound, get back 60p and are told how to spend it. England is a net contributor to the EU but the rest of the UK relies on subsidies. Scotland would almost certainly vote to leave the UK if we come out of Europe unless the UK government can divert the money that went into the EU to the projects and initiatives that would lose out following brexit.

We don't need the European Union. It's expensive and takes away a country's sovereignty. We complain about the unelected house of lords here in the UK but seem fine handing over major governance to the EU.

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Templario 
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Nothing.

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marko 
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@g01df1sh

I hope you stay IN.

Better for both UK and EU, and Europe as a whole.

Win-win.

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J'Bar 
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Here is an idea the EU loves having its own things like EU armies or EU Police EU Parliament etc etc ,how about a EU Computer built in the EU, owned by EU company, now do we know of anything thats fits this idea ?.....

As for EU its OUT for me sorry to my European friends but we need to get our own house in order before we are in a position to help others ..


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g01df1sh 
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J-Bar spot on

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Posted on 23-May-2016 8:57:54
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@g01df1sh

Well an OS from Belgium would no longer be allowed to come over and work on a UK machine, without a work permit/Visa.

So that's probably the end of AOS4 on the X5000.

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Wol 
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Posted on 23-May-2016 9:29:58
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@g01df1sh

I vote in.

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olegil 
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Posted on 23-May-2016 9:35:41
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@g01df1sh

That's possibly the most ridiculous angle I've heard so far on such an important issue.
Thankfully, it seems most people are ignoring the Amiga part and focussing on the title, so there's always that.

As for that point, I think you would be fine on your own. Norway is struggling a bit outside, we've ended up having to accept a whole lot of EU regulations to be allowed access to the free market. But the situation here is a bit strange, as we had several referendums regarding this and the people always said no to EU. No such referendum was held regarding our membership in EEA and Schengen, which I think we could have done without. However, we're doing just fine.

What's interesting is that Switzerland is a part of neither, but manages just fine. UK is part of EU but not Schengen, and you're managing just fine.

So for the people who doom and gloom about Brexit: Relax. It would work out just fine. You're a big economy, EU needs your trade. If you promise to do two changes (eat Norwegian salmon and export an electric car), you'll at least have a trade partner here on the other side of the North Sea

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OlafS25 
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@A1200

The people that are for Brexit offen think it will give them the big freedom and they get rid of any payments. To a certain degree I can understand that people want that but it is just a illusion. Ask norway and switzerland. Norway has only very limited access to the market but have to take over 70% of new rules without any say and have to give money. Switzerland more or less has all duties of full members without any say because they need full access (50% of exports go to germany alone). Norway has only limited number of products, most exports are oil, gas and fish so Britain would be more like switzerland. And do not think that Britain will get a better treaty than switzerland, I think the opposite just for punishing Britain for Brexit so noone else will try.

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thellier 
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Posted on 23-May-2016 9:38:26
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@A1200

I agree : you should better be out

1) Europe is a fail :
started with European Coal and Steel Community ==> mines & steel factory closed
then Common Agricultural Policy => no more farmers all ruined
then EU Single Market that is no more a protected market for European producers only but now an open door for all the low-cost/quality things from China etc...

2) Sovereignty is the mos important thing for a country : as we said in France "la liberté ou la mort" "better dead than not free"
If it is Merckel and Germany that finally decide (as our president Hollande is Merckel's puppy) then we should better have lost World War 1 and let the Germany decide for 500 millions people

3) UK is already not in Euro or Schengen (Europe frontiers) so not a big change for UK

4) Europe is NOT democratic : all is decided in European Commission that is not elected : it is an oligarchy
Now it is negotiating Transatlantic Free Trade Area (TAFTA) in pure secret

5) UK is USA puppy : allways ready for Uncle Sam desire like the TAFTA or to follow them in a war

Of course I voted no to the European Constitution & Maastricht Treaty
Yes you can call me a pure Republican Sovereignist


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OlafS25 
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Posted on 23-May-2016 9:39:02
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@olegil

EU needs Britain less than Britain needs EU

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OlafS25 
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@thellier

then make products that chinese people want to buy. Protected markets mean low quality at high prices, companies have no real competition so are not struggling to become better and you end up with a uncompetitive industry. Sounds a little like france, doesn´t it? EU was not primarly created to protect the old-fashioned structure and laws in france. It is a little funny... Hollande is seriously to do some reforms and expecially the young protest that would most benefit from changes, it seems they prefer to stay unemployed it seems. In Germany economically not all is good but at least france could look there and do what fits. To say no reforms is wrong.

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thellier 
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Posted on 23-May-2016 9:47:58
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@OlafS25

>take over 70% of new rules without any say

but as it is (unelected) European Commission that redact the rules and not the (elected) European parliament ...

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samo79 
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Posted on 23-May-2016 9:52:41
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Political speaking being already a sort of 51st State of US atleast give to the Britains the opportunity to choose if leave or stay in this ridiculous institution called EU ..

Of course no hope and zero democraZy for all the others ...

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