Poster | Thread |
g01df1sh
| |
Serial speed Posted on 19-Jul-2016 21:48:10
| | [ #1 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 16-Apr-2009 Posts: 1777
From: UK | | |
|
| Hi
have I got something configured wrong?
how long should it take to copy a 1mb folder from pc to amiga using amiga explorer?
_________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
Rob
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 19-Jul-2016 22:07:00
| | [ #2 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 20-Mar-2003 Posts: 6351
From: S.Wales | | |
|
| |
Status: Offline |
|
|
g01df1sh
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 19-Jul-2016 22:30:35
| | [ #3 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 16-Apr-2009 Posts: 1777
From: UK | | |
|
| @Rob
OK I have tried various different settings nothing seems to make much difference. I guess serial is not the way to transfer whdload game folders of 1-4 mb.
2nb folder is saying 15mins "chock"
I'm using windows 10 64bit as client
Last edited by g01df1sh on 19-Jul-2016 at 10:31 PM.
_________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
A1200
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 20-Jul-2016 2:54:56
| | [ #4 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 5-May-2003 Posts: 3090
From: Westhall, UK | | |
|
| @g01df1sh
Use PCMCIA compact flash adapter. Amigakit and other sellers on eBay have them with software. I am pleased with the amigakit solution.
Or you could use PCMCIA networking (samba client) or clockport USB interface to transfer via USB memory. _________________ Amiga A1200, 3.1 ROMs, Blizzard 1230 MKIV 64MB & FPU, 4GB DoM SSD, Workbench 3.1 |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
g01df1sh
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 20-Jul-2016 8:09:06
| | [ #5 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 16-Apr-2009 Posts: 1777
From: UK | | |
|
| @A1200
usb is on my list after GFX solution and accelerator. _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
Hypex
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 20-Jul-2016 15:41:22
| | [ #6 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 6-May-2007 Posts: 11215
From: Greensborough, Australia | | |
|
| @g01df1sh
Well it is over serial. So unless you have a Whippet that can do 115,200 baud something like 38,400 baud is a safe top speed. For best speed a parallel setup should be used. Like a "Laplink" cable.
Does the Explorer use compression? Since you PC would be doing the hard work and unpacking is faster it should support that. And what do you configure the serial speed in?
Yes USB would be nice for all of us. Like an easy solution for my A4000. Even something plugged into the IDE or floppy port would be good.
You could also locate a PCMCIA network card or more likely a PCMCIA wireless card. |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
QuikSanz
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 20-Jul-2016 16:35:37
| | [ #7 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 28-Mar-2003 Posts: 1236
From: Harbor Gateway, Gardena, Ca. | | |
|
| @g01df1sh,
Find a Hypercom or IOBlix card, should do do the trick.
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
g01df1sh
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 20-Jul-2016 16:46:58
| | [ #8 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 16-Apr-2009 Posts: 1777
From: UK | | |
|
| @QuikSanz
would need zorro bus for them. oh I did and sold it along with my a1200 power tower and Picasso iv with 060 life's biggest mistake now paying for it. _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
Rob
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 20-Jul-2016 17:41:35
| | [ #9 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 20-Mar-2003 Posts: 6351
From: S.Wales | | |
|
| @g01df1sh
They fit to the clockport. I have a Hypercom 1 around somewhere. According to this file transfer time calculator 460,000bps would result in 1MB being transfer in 20 seconds. I don't know what you'd actually get in reality though. |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
A1200
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 20-Jul-2016 21:59:57
| | [ #10 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 5-May-2003 Posts: 3090
From: Westhall, UK | | |
|
| @g01df1sh
Having an accelerated Amiga allows for faster serial speeds. _________________ Amiga A1200, 3.1 ROMs, Blizzard 1230 MKIV 64MB & FPU, 4GB DoM SSD, Workbench 3.1 |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
cgutjahr
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 20-Jul-2016 23:02:44
| | [ #11 ] |
|
|
|
Cult Member |
Joined: 8-Mar-2003 Posts: 969
From: Unknown | | |
|
| @g01df1sh Quote:
I guess serial is not the way to transfer whdload game folders of 1-4 mb
|
Exactly.
I'm assuming you're using an A1200? Go buy a PCMCIA network card on ebay that is supported by cnet.device - that will cost you five to ten bucks. Then install the free AmiTCP 3.0 and Amiga Explorer should be a lot faster (not *fast*, but a lot faster than serial).
If the A1200 is usually in a different room so a constant cable connection is impractical, just use a PCMCIA CF adapter. Again, driver's are available for free on Aminet.
Quote:
For mass storage, you can use a CF adapter or a network card (see above). What else do you need USB for? USB solutions for A1200 are (extremely) rare, expensive and less reliable than a simple CF adapter.
Quote:
after GFX solution and accelerator.
|
If you're planning to add a gfx card, dump the A1200 now instead of investing more money, then buy an A4000. It's cheaper than towering an A1200, getting a bus board and a gfx card - and it offers more power.
Unless you're using the "because I can!" approach, which is a totally valid pov of course. In that case: have fun. |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
Severin
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 21-Jul-2016 11:08:17
| | [ #12 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 19-Aug-2003 Posts: 2740
From: Gloucestershire UK | | |
|
| @g01df1sh
Quote:
2nb folder is saying 15mins "chock" |
I remember those days, at least now your phone bill isn't going up like mine used to as I was getting files via a modem.
Quote:
I'm using windows 10 64bit as client |
It makes no difference what machine your sending from, your 1200's serial port os the bottleneck.
You could install a silversurfer which will give serial speeds up to 460800 bps, you can still buy them new for around 30 euros/dollars, probably pick up a used one for a tenner.
But if you do get one you will be breaking the trdition of classic amiga users who expect long slow loading _________________ OS4 Rocks X1000 beta tester, Sam440 Flex (733)
Visit the Official OS4 Support Site for more help.
It may be that your sole purpose is to serve as a warning to others. |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
g01df1sh
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 21-Jul-2016 12:10:26
| | [ #13 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 16-Apr-2009 Posts: 1777
From: UK | | |
|
| @Severin
A4000 would work out just as expensive as A1200 if you take into account basic A4000 no gfx cards go for around 300-400 then add a Picasso if you can find one and all of a sudden the price starts sky rocketing. A4000 would still need pci bus same as A1200 if not going down the zorro route. _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
Daedalus
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 21-Jul-2016 13:35:06
| | [ #14 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 14-Jul-2003 Posts: 1680
From: Glasgow - UK, Irish born | | |
|
| Yep, add-on serial cards are much, much faster and can be run up to 460,800 baud. But remember that almost all PC serial ports only go up to 115,200 so that's about as much as you'll get. Still, it should be much faster than the internal port as the CIA bottleneck is removed and far fewer interrupts need to be handled so more CPU time will be available for other tasks.
Really though, as already pointed out, a CF card and PCMCIA adaptor combo is the way to go I reckon. It's cheap, and of course it's hard to beat the bandwidth of Sneakernet _________________ RobTheNerd.com | InstallerGen | SMBMounter | Atoms-X |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
Severin
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 21-Jul-2016 14:40:02
| | [ #15 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 19-Aug-2003 Posts: 2740
From: Gloucestershire UK | | |
|
| @g01df1sh
Er... Did I mention an A4000 at all? I just suggested a silversurfer which fit's the A1200 clockport. _________________ OS4 Rocks X1000 beta tester, Sam440 Flex (733)
Visit the Official OS4 Support Site for more help.
It may be that your sole purpose is to serve as a warning to others. |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
g01df1sh
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 21-Jul-2016 15:07:22
| | [ #16 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 16-Apr-2009 Posts: 1777
From: UK | | |
|
| @Severin
Sorry should of been to cgutjahr
_________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
cgutjahr
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 22-Jul-2016 1:11:08
| | [ #17 ] |
|
|
|
Cult Member |
Joined: 8-Mar-2003 Posts: 969
From: Unknown | | |
|
| @g01df1sh
Quote:
A4000 would work out just as expensive as A1200
|
It might take a bit of luck, I'm not following prices that closely. But keep in mind you need to buy a tower case (rare and expensive these days), a 68030 accelerator and a keyboard adapter to match a bare A4000. Even if you insist on buying a mediator for either configuration, the 4000 still has a bunch of DMA capable Z2 slots while the A1200 only has PCMCIA. |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
QuikSanz
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 22-Jul-2016 1:24:53
| | [ #18 ] |
|
|
|
Super Member |
Joined: 28-Mar-2003 Posts: 1236
From: Harbor Gateway, Gardena, Ca. | | |
|
| @cgutjahr,
Umm, you mean Zorro III slots..
|
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
cgutjahr
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 22-Jul-2016 8:58:07
| | [ #19 ] |
|
|
|
Cult Member |
Joined: 8-Mar-2003 Posts: 969
From: Unknown | | |
|
| @QuikSanz
Quote:
Umm, you mean Zorro III slots..
|
Ouch |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|
Dandy
| |
Re: Serial speed Posted on 19-Aug-2016 9:05:32
| | [ #20 ] |
|
|
|
Elite Member |
Joined: 24-Mar-2003 Posts: 3049
From: Cologne * Germany | | |
|
| @g01df1sh
Quote:
g01df1sh wrote: @Rob
... I'm using windows 10 64bit as Client
|
That's massively exaggerated. M$-DOS 5.0 16bit would have been more than sufficiant for serial data transfer to an Amiga... (just kidding)
Ever thought about using at least parallell transfer method with PARNET PARALLEL DATA TRANSFER CABLE and PARNET?
This way 8 bit get transferred at the same time in one go through 8 physical wires, while with serial method they are transferred one bit after the other through one and the same wire... _________________ Ciao
Dandy __________________________________________ If someone enjoys marching to military music, then I already despise him. He got his brain accidently - the bone marrow in his back would have been sufficient for him! (Albert Einstein) |
|
Status: Offline |
|
|