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ggw 
X1000 workbench icon placement
Posted on 11-Nov-2016 3:45:53
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I cannot get disk (or any) X1000 OS4.1 final icons to stay put. The next reboot they are scattered all along the left margin. Doesn't matter if I gave some of them images of their own or the "fake" ones.

I tried selecting the background (workbench) and the "select all" and snapshot all.

I looked in the Prefs at the Workbench. Nothing seemed to apply.

Searching about this topic is not easy, hence I ask, "How?"

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Re: X1000 workbench icon placement
Posted on 11-Nov-2016 5:43:12
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@ggw

Maybe you have some icons that can't get snapshoted?
Normaly my icons are where they are supposed to be but if i bootup with some drive inserted without a snapshoted icon (usb drive, cdrom etc) their icon can be placed where my snapshoted icons are and make them be scattered around.


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eroom 
Re: X1000 workbench icon placement
Posted on 11-Nov-2016 9:08:55
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@ggw

I normally place the icons where I want them and then select all the icons and then right click and select 'snapshot'.

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Tomppeli 
Re: X1000 workbench icon placement
Posted on 11-Nov-2016 10:03:50
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@ggw

Make sure you have enough room around the icons otherwise Workbench might think they're overlapping each other and move some of them around. Also what smf said, icons of removable media might have priority and be positioned first (forcing other icons out of their reserved area).

Last edited by Tomppeli on 11-Nov-2016 at 10:04 AM.

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broadblues 
Re: X1000 workbench icon placement
Posted on 11-Nov-2016 11:39:48
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@ggw

Works fine here.

Which icons are you snapshotting and where?

The only timw snapshoing can go wrong after a reboot that I can think of is if the icons have been snapshotted too close together.

Any unsnapshotted icons and removable disk with unsnapshotted icons etc will simply fil in the gaps down the left edge as they are added.

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Re: X1000 workbench icon placement
Posted on 11-Nov-2016 13:42:33
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Quote:

eroom wrote:
@ggw

I normally place the icons where I want them and then select all the icons and then right click and select 'snapshot'.


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thomas 
Re: X1000 workbench icon placement
Posted on 11-Nov-2016 14:50:59
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Quote:

broadblues wrote:
The only timw snapshoing can go wrong after a reboot that I can think of is if the icons have been snapshotted too close together.



Snapshot will also fail if icons are placed too close to the border.

It might also fail if the icons are positioned outside of the screen when the screen opens. If the Workbench screen for example opens in low resolition with the famous "Intuitions is attempting to reset the Workbench screen" requester and only changes to high resolution later, then icons are repositoned so that they fit on the low resolution.

And snapshot will fail if icons (or disks) are write protected.

And finally if you snapshot icons on the left where the free icons would appear, it might happen that a free icon is loaded and drawn first and the snapshotted icon is then handled as if it was free.


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mlehto 
Re: X1000 workbench icon placement
Posted on 12-Nov-2016 21:15:21
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@ggw

In OS 3.x snapshotting may/will fail, If maxtranfer is too high compared where amiga ide or scsi is cabable.


Dont know, If it is same in 4.x. Most likely you cant set it too high in these speedy sata ports, If not there is some limitations in driver. Might be better to check maxtransfer anyway.

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Tomppeli 
Re: X1000 workbench icon placement
Posted on 13-Nov-2016 0:29:08
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@mlehto

Maxtransfer has no meaning on modern hardware since 1970s.

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mlehto 
Re: X1000 workbench icon placement
Posted on 13-Nov-2016 0:54:10
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@Tomppeli

At least it has effect In nineties. Called Finnish amiga Support/repair show and my icons started to stay in there Snapshot.

BTW there wasnt any modern hard disk around 1970... ;)

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ggw 
Re: X1000 workbench icon placement
Posted on 15-Nov-2016 4:14:49
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@thomas

Your observations are closest to the mark.

If I resign myself to icons "NOT ON THE LEFT", they do seem to stay put.

Sadly, being a programmer from waaaay back I very much desire that directories show me their contents as lists, not the least being for their compactness.

However, the workbench has been altogether different as is the top level of Work1: where I, in the past, have enjoyed having contents shown as icons, many of them from over the years from one Amiga hardware setup to the next, and some of them icon images of my design.

The X1000 is the 1st one to give a lot of resistance to placement on the workbench. Possibly it was that this is the first setup with an embarrassment of storage space resulting in an icon for each partition.... many of them.

I hate *guessing* at the rules for when I will be (am) denied my chosen position for them.

I thank you (all) for mentioning all the things that come into play on this subject.

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