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No X5000 in UK? Posted on 13-Feb-2017 14:06:20
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| Hi
Why has all the other sites on Aeon website for X5000 got them apart from Amigakit. Considering the machine is developed in the UK you would think Amigakit would get stock first. I hope X1222 don't suffer from this poor stock supply. _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 13-Feb-2017 15:37:05
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| @g01df1sh I've seen this question asked in several forums and the closest thing I've seen to an answer is that they are busy shipping X5000 to other retailers for now. Apparently Amigakit is acting as wholesaler/distributor for X5000 and don't want to undercut retailer sales.
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 13-Feb-2017 16:17:23
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| @XenicQuote:
Xenic wrote: @g01df1sh I've seen this question asked in several forums and the closest thing I've seen to an answer is that they are busy shipping X5000 to other retailers for now. Apparently Amigakit is acting as wholesaler/distributor for X5000 and don't want to undercut retailer sales.
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But why have they then restricted the area where each retailer is allowed to sell X5000? E.g. Alinea told me that they cannot deliver outside Germany, period. And I suppose it is the same for Acube, Relec and Amedia, as they did not even bother to answer to my requests asking the possibility to deliver aboard (though within Europe).
I think this is unfear toward customers who do not happen to live within the allowed distribution areas, and have to wait until AmigaKit agrees to sell them, if they ever will...
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 13-Feb-2017 16:18:06
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| Just a speculation Was the internal market too much influenced by the Brexit? I mean they payed the boards before Brexit, this means that selling them at the promised price is a quite relevant loss. Selling outside may be more convenient while waiting for a stronger pound.
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 13-Feb-2017 17:42:58
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| @Gregor
Amedia have offered to sell me a system but I don't want to pay in Euro and would prefer to pay in my home currency of GBP
Aside from the price difference I also don't agree with the ethics and environmental impact having my machine shipped around various points around Europe before it lands on my doorstep. It's bad enough the delivery companies that handle your goods don't always take the most effective routes from trackings I have had in the past 😉 _________________ Amigaone X5000/20 4GB Radeon RX 550 Polaris 12 AmigaOS4.1 Final Edition Update 1 Amiga 1200 Workbench 3.1.4 Amiga CD32 |
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 13-Feb-2017 18:02:02
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We will be opening ordering of the AmigaOne X5000 in late Feb/March on our UK web store.
We have been concentrating on supplying stock to resellers from around the world for the last four months, which logistically is a *lot* of work.
The majority of resellers have stock right now because we have Fedex out several large packages last week to them. There are a couple of resellers awaiting stock as they do not keep a buffer of the boards but instead order on a Just-In-Time basis.
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 13-Feb-2017 18:09:54
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Cheers for the update 😉. Looks like I am getting a birthday present then 😀 _________________ Amigaone X5000/20 4GB Radeon RX 550 Polaris 12 AmigaOS4.1 Final Edition Update 1 Amiga 1200 Workbench 3.1.4 Amiga CD32 |
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 13-Feb-2017 19:57:09
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| @outrun1978
Congrats and happy early birthday. Glad to hear UK customers will have Amigakit to order X5000's from soon. |
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 14-Feb-2017 2:02:08
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Thanks for the update, much appreciated.
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Remember, AmigaKit isn't just "UK", it's also "rest of the world". _________________ --------------- AmigaOne X5000 P5020 2Ghz, OS 4.1 AmigaOne XE G4 800mhz, OS 4.1 A1200T 40Mhz 68040, OS 3.9 |
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 14-Feb-2017 3:52:04
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Also, there is no X1222. The 'X' designator is for A-Eon high-end machines.
Like the AmigaOne 500 the Tabor-based machine will be a round number without the X. I expect it will be something like AmigaOne 1200, though it would be more appropriate to name it AmigaOne 600.
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 14-Feb-2017 5:55:58
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| This may have been mentioned elsewhere...
Is there a ballpark estimate of the number of X5000 motherboards that were produced in the first run?
Any comparable figures for X1000 or A1222?
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 14-Feb-2017 6:08:21
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Trevor said 500 Cyrus board and 1000 Tabor boards had been produced. For the Nemo he never gave any exact number but did say more than 300 and less than 3000. The general consensus seems to be around 600. |
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 14-Feb-2017 6:09:05
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| @agami
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Like the AmigaOne 500 the Tabor-based machine will be a round number without the X. I expect it will be something like AmigaOne 1200, though it would be more appropriate to name it AmigaOne 600. |
It's A1222. |
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 14-Feb-2017 16:03:33
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| @outrun1978 Quote:
outrun1978 wrote: Aside from the price difference I also don't agree with the ethics and environmental impact having my machine shipped around various points around Europe before it lands on my doorstep. It's bad enough the delivery companies that handle your goods don't always take the most effective routes from trackings I have had in the past 😉 |
I respect highly your responsible attitude in this matter...! As there is a 'local dealer' in England, it is indeed the most ethical choise for you. For those of us not having one, we also have to order from AmigaKit, even if the route from some other country (with a dealer) would be shorter.
I think it would be better if all dealers would be free to deliver anywhere they wish, and that the price of Cyrus+ would be kept identical in all shops (this is of course difficult to arrange due to the different V.A.T. in European countries). The whole X5000 systems are customized depending on the dealer, thus they have naturally somewhat differing prices.
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 14-Feb-2017 21:57:31
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| @Rob
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Trevor said 500 Cyrus board and 1000 Tabor boards had been produced. For the Nemo he never gave any exact number but did say more than 300 and less than 3000. The general consensus seems to be around 600. |
Terrific, thanks.
Do we also have estimates for the other PPC systems - accelerators, Sam etc.?
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 15-Feb-2017 0:27:50
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It's estimated that 4008 Blizzard PPC, 2889 Cyberstorm PPC and 19 developer boards were made in total.
Source.
Evert Carton made the following statement in his declaration to the court during the dispute with Amiga Inc.
I estimate that Hyperion shipped more or less 1000 of that Developer Pre-release
Source.
That suggests around 1000 Eyetech AmigaOne boards were sold.
I'm not aware of any figures figures or estimates for the Sam series.
It's not OS4 hardware but I thought that while I was at it I'd add that the first run of Mediator 1200 boards was 1000 pieces.
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 15-Feb-2017 6:05:11
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Appreciate it, thanks!
It would seem then that the majority of PPC-based systems would have been sold prior to the introduction of the X1000, making it difficult to know how many are working / actively being used.
It also appears (if estimates for demand/production are correct), that new PPC hardware (X5000 + A1222) and solutions for 68k acceleration (Vampire) may end up with comparable volumes - or roughly 2000 units total each. |
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Re: No X5000 in UK? Posted on 28-Mar-2017 11:06:25
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by amigakit on 13-Feb-2017 18:02:02
@outrun1978
We will be opening ordering of the AmigaOne X5000 in late Feb/March on our UK web store.
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Is there any update to the above? 🤔_________________ Amigaone X5000/20 4GB Radeon RX 550 Polaris 12 AmigaOS4.1 Final Edition Update 1 Amiga 1200 Workbench 3.1.4 Amiga CD32 |
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