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amigasociety 
Re: X5000 question
Posted on 1-Mar-2017 22:18:36
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@StantheAmigaMan

Amiga OS is not like other OS's.

Take modern OS and subtract.

Its a hobby system for most of us.

Enjoy what it does today and what it can grow into in the future.

We still don't have multi-core or memory protection after all.

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StantheAmigaMan 
Re: X5000 question
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@amigasociety

Having dealt with AmigaOS since 1986, I completely understand. And I've apparently forgotten that it's not fully supported anymore.

This is why I got into software development in the first place. Perhaps it's time to re-enter that portion of the market.

Time to dig up the Kernel reference manuals and a good C compiler...

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amigasociety 
Re: X5000 question
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What I hope for before more than 2GB memory support is a better web browser.

I like Odyssey but it is not up to more modern browsers.

Would love to see A-Eon take on a "pay for" browser that gets frequent updates.

The more web support I have, the more I can use my X5K for everyday work.

After that, better printer support.

Then for speed, multi-core and then memory protection.

For now a better web browser that is very solid would be great!

TJ

Last edited by amigasociety on 01-Mar-2017 at 10:36 PM.

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Rob 
Re: X5000 question
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@amigasociety

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I wonder if the PCI-E x4 could be used? If they even make video cards that fit that slot.


Yes it could and you'd get 4 times the bandwidth. I overlooked it because my initial train of thought was that there were x1 cards but then I found they're rare as hens teeth and ridiculously priced when you do find them.

I couldn't find any x4 to times x16 that weren't either on a cable or right angled. I did find a x8 to x16 connector that is so cheap ($2.81) that you won't worry about cutting it down to x4 size.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1PC-PCI-Express-Riser-Card-x8-to-x16-Left-Slot-Adapter-For-1U-Servers-/201006566764

You need to cut it down to 32 pins long so I've highlighted where it needs to be cut.

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amigasociety 
Re: X5000 question
Posted on 1-Mar-2017 22:55:58
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@Rob

I am confused.

What is the difference between the 1st 4x to 16x I posted and the one you show above?

Or this other one I just found.

http://www.orbitmicro.com/global/arc1-08x16-x4-p-8227.html

Would they not work?

They don't state Left or Right so guessing you are saying X5K has to have a LEFT angle adapter?

TJ

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Rob 
Re: X5000 question
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@amigasociety

I was composing my post while you added a few more replies and hadn't seen you'd found a suitable x4 to x16 adapter.

These adapters are not angled so nothing to worried about.

For reference this is a right angle adapter



The adapter I found is actually x8 to times x16 but if you have Dremel or similar multi tool at your disposal then this is $35 cheaper and postage fee. You could get a Radeon HD5450 for less than $35 and it would make an ideal companion card for a 7750 in the X5000. Just looking what the cheapest possible solution would be.

It might be worth asking AOTL if they can get some of these adapters in and sell them pre cut so user wishing utilise the x4 slot for a second video card can do it for less. I assume not everyone has the tools to modify it themselves.

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amigasociety 
Re: X5000 question
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@Rob

Indeed, that angle one looks odd. hehe.

I happen to own a low profile 5450 and 7750 for my Tabor and will end up probably using the 7750 in that.

Therefore will have a 5450 at my disposal to give this a try.

Or one day will buy a R9 270 card for the X5K but not sure if the width of that card will over-ride the X4 slot (think it will) so might not fit that R9 and 7750 side by side.

Either way, a 5450 would probably be fine for basics.

TJ

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StantheAmigaMan 
Re: X5000 question
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@amigasociety

Odyssey ... well, at least I know what to expect for this one. I was really hoping for a better one. I like Odyssey but it's... not the best out there. And printer support as well. Which printer do you use?

I thought the motherboard had a quad-core 2.2GHz CPU with it?

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Re: X5000 question
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Odyssey is really the best one we have. Most capable IMHO.

Netsurf is OK and the others like IB are not up to snuff on more modern pages.

No, x5k is 2GHz dual core.

Never printed from an Amiga NG. Maybe one day I will.

TJ

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tonyw 
Re: X5000 question
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@StantheAmigaMan

No new printer drivers have been written for a long time. However, most medium-high end printers these days support Postscript and printing to Postscript works like a charm.

If you are going to buy a new printer, go for one that groks Postscript.

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cha05e90 
Re: X5000 question
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@StantheAmigaMan

A network capable PCL/Postscript printer should just work.

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Re: X5000 question
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StantheAmigaMan wrote:
@PR

No idea who would take a new Amiga. It wasn't labeled as such, so I guess the laugh was on whomever took it. They couldn't even get past the boot screen without the proper hardware/keyboard&mouse

Me? I work at APG in Maryland.

I'm also wondering if my HP officeJet will work with the 5000; it didn't with the 500. hehe


ah man sorry to here about this but you should keep an eye out in the local kijiji or classifieds as most likely the thief won't have a clue what to do with the X5K and sell is 'as is' or 'for parts' and usually are stupid enough to post pics

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Re: X5000 question
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amigasociety wrote:
@StantheAmigaMan

What I hope for before more than 2GB memory support is a better web browser.

I like Odyssey but it is not up to more modern browsers.

Would love to see A-Eon take on a "pay for" browser that gets frequent updates.

The more web support I have, the more I can use my X5K for everyday work.

TJ



+1 ! Timberwolf was sooo close so if A-Eon could get it updated somehow it would be 1st thing we need IMHO

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Rob 
Re: X5000 question
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I thought the motherboard had a quad-core 2.2GHz CPU with it?


Currently the X5000 is only available with a P5020 dual core chip but later there will be a model with the quad core P5040.

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Dandy 
Re: X5000 question
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Quote:

Rob wrote:
@StantheAmigaMan

Quote:


I thought the motherboard had a quad-core 2.2GHz CPU with it?



Currently the X5000 is only available with a P5020 dual core chip but later there will be a model with the quad core P5040.



Is there any information about when the quad core P5040 version might become available?

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Re: X5000 question
Posted on 23-May-2017 11:03:01
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@Dandy

"when the quad core P5040 version might become available?"

I think it mainly needs a pin compatible SoC to be changed in production.
But I see no sense in doing it before AOS4 or MorphOS can use core1...3.

(Unless there really is some significant LinuxPPC + AROS~SMP-PPC market there somewhere...)

(IMO: (Using P5010 would indicate there is no more hope for multicore support in AOS.
P5020 has one core reserve, in case multicore support materializes (not insanely silly "investment").
P5040 would be silly investment for AOS/MorphOS for now.))

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shastar 
Re: X5000 question
Posted on 23-May-2017 12:35:23
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@PR

"Amiga was stolen? Who the Hell would do that?"

I really can understand that. Everyone wants one. ;)

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Seiya 
Re: X5000 question
Posted on 23-May-2017 12:48:05
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does AmigaOS 4 support smp?

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Re: X5000 question
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@Seiya

As far as I know, no. But I think it's on the roadmap for 4.2 when it comes out.

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Posted on 23-May-2017 13:34:49
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@Seiya

Does AmigaOS 4 support smp? Not yet.

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