Hey gang,

Which compiler would work with the PPC OS? I heard or remember something about the latest Lattice/SAS system, for the 68k. How would that work? I mean, I know the functionality is identical to classic software but they're two different platforms.

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Simply download SDK with needed files. CodeBench may help you with development.

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vbcc if you wont do any 680x0 c development, it also contains a gritty good assembler for 680x0.

For the newest vasm compiler you might wont to download hippo-player form git hub, it contains all you need to compile assembler.

https://github.com/khval/HippoPlayer/tree/master/c

For C development you need to download NDK3.9.

http://www.haage-partner.de/download/AmigaOS/NDK39.lha


For AmigaOS 4.1 C/C++ development you should install the OS4.1 SDK from Hyperion.

http://hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php/downloads?view=files&parent=30

In addition you can install CodeBench, or any text editor will do, I use Notepad that comes with the OS.

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Perfect. Thanks!!!

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I know the functionality is identical to classic software but they're two different platforms.

Some define platform as the OS,
Some define platform as some standard API like SDL,
Some define platform as hardware.
Some define platform as programming language, like JavaVm.

The OS side is slight different, AmigaOS 4.1 comes with two API's for etch library, there is the legacy "JMP table as used by the 680x0 programs.", and there is API for C program based on structs, and function pointers.
To hide the difference you, can type –D__USE_INLINE__ as compiler option.

So it's basically the same.
There are new things like.
Amiga Input for joypads.
Picasso96 has declared obsolete, and most of that API is now part of graphic library.
(They have not removed legacy support for CyberGraphics or Picasso96 but you should not use it in new programs.)

Standard API's like SDL, Allegro and so that is basically designed for cross platform development should be the same on all operating systems. But this API's are not designed for making programs.

Hardware is also different.

AmigaONE's are PC's with PowerPC CPU chip.
Amiga computers, have Paula, Denice, Agnus, and so chips, that don't exist in AmigaONE computers.

So you really should not write for hardware, you should write your software for the operating system.

And yes the PCI bus can be accessed from Exception library I believe on AmigaOS4.1, so you can write your own drivers if you like to, but that is what you should do, don't make your program access PCI bus directly that's just bad programming style.

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Thank you Nuts :). I suppose I'm still stuck in the past with the Amiga development, writing for specific hardware items. Makes sense to write for the operating system.

But how will that work for device drivers? And I'd kill for a development tutorial like the classic Amigas had (hardware reference manuals, and Abacus books on the subjects, etc)

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Well the autodocs are included with OS4.1 SDK, there is example folder you, so you can find small code snipes, and for more for some of the documents on how to code has been moved over to Amiga wiki page.

http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/Main_Page

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And yes the PCI bus can be accessed from Exception library I believe on AmigaOS4.1, so you can write your own drivers if you like to, but that is what you should do, don't make your program access PCI bus directly that's just bad programming style.

Does it give you an exception to work on the PCI bus? Or does it catch you out? You can also get to PCI from Expansion.