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Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 23-Mar-2017 14:24:15
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-mcewen-989700/
Is something going on @ Amiga Inc.? No more money?
I wonder... _________________ Sometimes we give people a lot of credit just because they’re writing nice sentences even if it isn’t adding up to much. |
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 23-Mar-2017 15:43:54
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 23-Mar-2017 16:01:23
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has Trevor got his fishing rod ready before some other shity company buys it.
Last edited by g01df1sh on 23-Mar-2017 at 04:01 PM.
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 23-Mar-2017 17:24:16
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I thinking Trevor said they were asking for $20M, the same they quoted Bill P when he had an interest in buying them out. I think they paid $5M and that got them stock of hardware and access to a bigger customer base than exists now. Bill and Fleecy added no valuable IP to the company, the stock of A1200s were sold and their shenanigans only served to devalue the brand. They should feel lucky if someone is willing to pay them half a million dollars. Better to get some money back than none. |
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 24-Mar-2017 5:33:44
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If Amiga isn't paying the bills then those who own it have to find another job.
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 24-Mar-2017 10:40:13
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do they own anything what would be worth even 500.000?
Even if brand would be owned by a-eon (Hyperion still is involved there too) what would they offer that would motivate people to buy it in 2017. Do not forget the commodore fiasco with rebranded linux pcs asking for lots of money just because of amiga stickers on it. It will not work. You could create some marketing, there would be some news reports, people would look at the offering and compare it with what they already own and then go away. You need both, brand and fitting products. And that would be very risky and expensive. |
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 24-Mar-2017 13:20:20
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do they own anything what would be worth even 500.000? |
I was being generous. LOL.
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Even if brand would be owned by a-eon (Hyperion still is involved there too) what would they offer that would motivate people to buy it in 2017. |
If it was me I'd start with a nice little Amiga retro console. That's the only type of Amiga product that you could get into mainstream distribution channels as things stand at the moment. |
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 24-Mar-2017 13:30:31
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The inspiring face of Amiga Inc!
Vince Pfeifer...
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 24-Mar-2017 13:39:12
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... here are some more jokers:
Amiga Inc Photo Album
I hope Pentti Kouri got a good return on his investment!
He really should have known better
Pentti Kouri - Chief Amiga Inc investor (R.I.P.)
Wiki: Quote:
Dr. Pentti Kouri was the first Finn to receive a scholarship for the respected Atlantic College. After he graduated he went on to study economics at the University in Helsinki and graduated with a Master’s in 1970. In the same year Kouri was hired to the International Monetary Fund at only 21. There Kouri undertook research with Michael Porter and together they developed the Kouri-Porter model. Kouri graduated with a PhD from MIT (Massachusetts Institute of Technology) in 1974 and has since been a professor in Stanford, Yale, Helsinki and New York. Today he is best known as an international investor. |
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 24-Mar-2017 17:16:46
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 24-Mar-2017 20:31:34
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Just had a thought, did'nt Individual Computers get the Commodore name, I dont think they done much with it yet, but maybe they are also trying to get the Amiga name, after all they have some interesting future projects....A1200 remade. just a thought. _________________ AmigaNG, YouTube, LeaveReality Studio |
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 25-Mar-2017 3:14:36
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I thinking Trevor said they were asking for $20M... |
That was his comment based on knowledge of when someone last formally asked.
It's a bit surprising that there isn't some level of dialogue. |
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 25-Mar-2017 10:35:11
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Giving that guy 20ct for whatever he owns would still be fundamently wrong !! _________________ - We don't need good ideas, we haven't run out on bad ones yet - blame Canada |
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 25-Mar-2017 20:48:41
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It ultimately comes down to perceived value from the standpoint of the trademark holder - they could renew and retain the trademark indefinitely and use it as a tax write-off.
Either way, if they decide to transfer the rights, or let it expire, we can only hope that it is secured by someone with good intentions.
I am still surprised however, that the lines of communication have just never been there. Only in the Amiga market is basic communication such an elusive concept. |
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 25-Mar-2017 21:58:32
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The true value is really what someone is willing to pay for a asset, the IP owner's opinion or perception of that value isn't particularly valid. Sure, McBill could sit on it awhile longer, and its value would further decrease. It wouldn't surprise me, his business acumen has always been nil. |
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Re: Bill McE. not in charge anymore? Posted on 25-Mar-2017 22:12:36
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How would you know what "lines of communication" were open, or closed? You think that Bill McEwen, or Trevor and Matthew, or Jens of Individual Computers are going to discuss this topic in public?
Frankly, I don't think that the Amiga trademarks have any value anymore, and could even have a negative value to any product that is tied to that once proud and famous name. Very sad actually. |
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