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PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 14:19:12
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If using a meditator PCI bus board with A1200 does OS3.9 have hardware accelerated GFX or is it just redirected 2D display. For example would say doom run faster using A S3 pci card instead of AGA or would it be about the same. ? _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 14:35:54
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If you use a graphics card with hardware driver support for Warp3D you will get 3D acceleration for apps and games that support Warp3D. A 3DFX Voodoo 3 PCI 16MB is really your best bet. Voodoo 4/5 also should work on the Mediator with Warp3D.
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 14:40:57
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Ok thanks for info. Looks like 4 slot version is discontinued 6 slot is dam expensive. Now I have dilemma do I go classic or put money to A1222 when available _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 14:42:02
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doom should run faster on rtg as it doesnt need chunky to planar conversion there. generally rtg is fater than aga, and has more color depth and much higher resolution, so its recommended for productivity, as long as applications come along with it. genuine amiga games wont even notice it usually. |
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 14:43:21
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i wouldnt get mediator today. get a vampire accel, which will give you rtg functionality as well. |
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 16:33:07
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Is there a Warp3D driver for SAGA ? _________________ AmigaOS 4.x Beta Tester - Classic Amiga enthusiast - http://www.hd-zone.com is my Amiga Blog, check it out! |
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 17:04:55
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Doom doesn´t support 3D accelleration - only 2D speed and CPU are important. Old S3 PCI GFX card could give few FPS, but don´t expect miracles.
Games like Quake could use 3D GFX card features (eg. on Voodoo 3/4/5) depending on the port. However, you need at least 68060 to enjoy these. |
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 17:06:39
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Is there a Warp3D driver for SAGA ? |
Of course not, it is close to plain framebuffer (with superb memory speed)... |
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 18:35:16
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Is there a Warp3D driver for SAGA ? |
no, but there are considerations about tinygl implementation with some sort hardware acceleration, given that the core provides appropriate functionality, currently said ammx, but this is not all set in stone.
warpsd accelerated support would also be thinkable, based on open implementation , which is wazp3d as example. aros and winuae provide that already.
in comparison with that mediator, while very nice hardware, allowing among others for a huge destop resolutions suffers from a limited warp3d support (there is only a driver for voodoo on 68k) and small number of games and applicatiions available. this has not changed for years and wont change anymore.
not to forget that amiga troughput to pci devices via mediator is limited to less than 10mb/s, which is magnitudes lower than apollo memory/rtg bus afaik. as soon as apollo rtg extends beyond a simple framebuffer this will even improve.
so, to sup up, vampire is in my eyes much more attractive option with some future prospect as of today.Last edited by wawa on 29-Mar-2017 at 06:36 PM. Last edited by wawa on 29-Mar-2017 at 06:35 PM.
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 19:28:21
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OK the race is on first to public release A1222 or vampire A1200 or better still stand alone vampire. _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 19:53:34
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Being a Mediator fan for my Amiga 1200 Tower, I have several spare PCI busboards I can part with for a good price if you want one. I have the LT4 and the TX models (5 slot).
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 20:54:02
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Being a Mediator fan for my Amiga 1200 Tower, I have several spare PCI busboards I can part with for a good price if you want one. I have the LT4 and the TX models (5 slot). |
not trying to spoil you a deal, still this is another argument in favour of tha vampire: it fits in the original amiga case, whild mediator needs a costly and ugly (imho) tower conversion, except for 4000/3000di models (which is what i have chosen). |
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 21:40:43
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Do you have the one with the new power socket atx _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 22:20:31
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The TX model does. I have an extra of this model as well.
Drewlio77 Last edited by Drewlio77 on 29-Mar-2017 at 10:59 PM. Last edited by Drewlio77 on 29-Mar-2017 at 10:30 PM.
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 22:26:19
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 22:34:34
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Re: PCI 3D accelerated GFX Posted on 29-Mar-2017 22:58:10
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