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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 10-Sep-2017 17:04:02
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so cloanto are trying to take the amiga trademark, and now the amikit developer is, too? is this some sort of joke? i'll be damned if i buy anything from either of them ever again.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 10-Sep-2017 17:20:55
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@eliyahu

The Amiga "assets" seem complicated, even moreso outside of the United States:

http://www.pluritas.com/_public/_public_amiga/Amiga_Trademarks.pdf

I can't say this applies, but I do see where certain trademarks have been renewed, while others have not.

As far as "right and wrong" go, I can't comment as I haven't the legal background.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 11-Sep-2017 0:45:57
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@eliyahu

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so cloanto are trying to take the amiga trademark, and now the amikit developer is, too? is this some sort of joke? i'll be damned if i buy anything from either of them ever again.


So you wouldn't support either company simply because they attempted to secure the trademark?

Kind of tough to appreciate their motivations in advance isn't it?

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 11-Sep-2017 18:10:34
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Quote:
Consumer Protection Party

Can anyone confirm/deny or wish to comment?


Heinz-Alexander Drews seems to actually be the party chief ("Vorstand - 1 Vorsitzender" = "Chairman of the board"):

Verbraucherschutzpartei.de - Vorstand

I also note on the same page: "Schatzmeister - Sabine Drews" - the treasurer seems to be related to the party chief!!!

Wikipedia too mentions him as the party chief ("Vorsitzenden der Verbraucherschutzpartei").

Before the Amiga filing, his party made headlines for having forged signatures:

Verbraucherschutzpartei trat mit falschen Unterschriften an

(source: @cbmamiga)

Politics, nepotism, forged signatures... Trying to become popular by registering the Amiga trademark seems to be a match made in heaven! What next, will they rename Verbraucherschutzpartei in Amigaschutzpartei (Amiga Defense Party)?

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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@aria

Thank you for the additional info.

We should keep in mind that this is just a "filing" and not a registration. Sometimes this is done just to gauge reaction.
When Hyperion filed for AmigaOne, AmigaOS, and BoingBall with uspto, this was most likely also a test of how the system would react. Such reaction sometimes helps formulate future strategies.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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@eliyahu
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so cloanto are trying to take the amiga trademark, and now the amikit developer is, too?


Developer? Hyperion and Cloanto are developers. AmiKit (Jan Zahurancik) seems to excel at telling other people what to do. And then branding it with cat pictures, hippy music festival photos and promoting "gifts" and "generosity" to bag all the money... Very smart... Maybe his Master Degree in Psychology (LinkedIn) contributed to seducing me initially, but after this Amiga mark filing I think I under$tand the true nature...

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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The euipo Amiga trademark referred to in posts #236-239 (this thread) has now been assigned to an examiner.

Source

Amiga Inc.'s euipo Amiga trademark registration for those trying to follow this

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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@thread

Cloanto

Note:class 28 is gaming

same tm# here

?

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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Quote:

?


It says it was assigned. If you click Historic case details, then Event history, it shows a change in law firm and owner.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 16-Sep-2017 15:34:29
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@aria

Thank you again. I appreciate the additional help since this is a lot to keep up with.

I'll enclose the direct link to what you stated:

click event history tab

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 16-Sep-2017 15:42:19
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There has been activity regarding both the Cloanto euipo filing for Workbench and the Hyperion euipo filing for Workbench.

Cloanto changes representative yesterday

And on the last listed date for filing potential opposition, Cloanto's new representative filed for potential opposition against Hyperion.

See Opposition section

Opposition filing

the new representative for Cloanto

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Cloanto changes representative yesterday


Comparing with the previous version, I think they appointed (rather than changed) a EU representative. This may have been a requirement to defend against Hyperion's opposition.

It is the same representative they already had for the "Cloanto" EU mark.

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more documents filed under correspondence

Quote:
date of commencement of proceedings


ditto

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Posted on 25-Sep-2017 16:50:34
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My apologies for overlooking new info on another trademark.
I had been following workbench and amigaforever for obvious reasons, along with the uspto and euipo filings for Amiga.

Cloanto files for potential opposition against Hyperion's euipo filing for AmigaOS

And again in the correspondence section:
Quote:
commencement of proceedings to the opposing party


Basically the same data and dates as those filed above for Cloanto's potential opposition against Hyperion's euipo filing for Workbench.

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In addition from today:
Query started regarding the Drew filing for Amiga

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@thread

Also...

Another surveillance letter went out to Amiga Inc. for the euipo Amiga mark:

See correspondence section

See post #219 this thread for definition of term.

Lest I repeat myself, whenever you read Amiga Inc. these days, it means Itec LLC/Reed Smith of course.

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Apparently the Amiga (and related) trademark battle has now gone mainstream:

World Trademark Review

More players on the way?

Oh, it hit twitter as well.

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Posted on 26-Sep-2017 15:12:47
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@thread

Again apologies. By keeping up with only the major trademark battles, I lose track of the other trademarks that I have reported in this thread.

Amigakit filing for Amigakit trademark in Benelux

Quote:
Opposition has been filed


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As expected...

Cloanto files potential opposition to Hyperion's euipo filing for AmigaForever trademark

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Notice sent to Amiga Inc./Itec LLC/Reed Smith that they need to renew their Amiga euipo trademark. This follow in the wake of euipo sending them multiple surveillance letters.

Source under correspondence

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