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Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 30-Apr-2017 16:04:50
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I have recently purchased an Amiga one g3 se developers edition motherboard in which i have put in an atx case and powers on ok only that i cannot install any os system to the system
I have partitioned the drive for Linux using the original Amigaone install disk for suse linux 7.3 dist This works so far and then fails to decompress files to the hard drive i have tried muliple times using diffrent cd roms burning other disks etc without success.
Also I have tried Debian Woody 3.0 Dist, This installs and fails on installing a base system aswell. Also I have tried with success. My uboot version is 0.1.1 jun 10 2003
Also i cant find any updates to upgrade this rom to a later version on the internet anymore as I cant install Amiga OS 4.0 without doing so I believe after reading many users issues and postings on forums etc.
Please can anybody help me in getting anything installed to this Amigaone g3 SE as i am really stuck i feel that i have been beaten without the support outthere due to the rarity of this board etc
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 30-Apr-2017 16:46:45
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 30-Apr-2017 17:53:09
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You can find the Uboot update from Hyperion's website. AmigaOS 4.0 CD should just boot.
Do you have any IDE addon cards like Si0680 ?
Last edited by Tomppeli on 30-Apr-2017 at 05:55 PM.
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 30-Apr-2017 17:54:38
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pearson101 wrote: Hi Guys
I have recently purchased an Amiga one g3 se developers edition motherboard in which i have put in an atx case and powers on ok only that i cannot install any os system to the system |
Oh, another rare A1G3SE user.
As far as I know there are different revisions of the A1G3SE motherboard: would be cool, if you could post a photo of the motherboard.
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Also I have tried Debian Woody 3.0 Dist, This installs and fails on installing a base system aswell. Also I have tried with success. |
Debian Woody is pretty old. Hypex is working on an installer for Debian Jessie, which I tested successfully on my A1SE. I could imagine that this is enough beta-testing to release it to the public. Hypex?
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My uboot version is 0.1.1 jun 10 2003
Also i cant find any updates to upgrade this rom to a later version on the internet anymore as I cant install Amiga OS 4.0 without doing so I believe after reading many users issues and postings on forums etc. |
Yes, U-Boot version 0.1.1 is too old for AmigaOS4. Linux may work, but we're only testing on U-Boot 1.1.1 or later these days. So upgrading the firmware would be the first step. You need a floppy or CD updater image, as you can't use AmigaOS4's BIOSUpdater to perform the update._________________ A1SE: G3@600MHz, 2GB, 1GBit network card A1XE: G4@933MHz, 2GB, refitted AC'97 codec microA1: G3@800MHz, 1GB
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 30-Apr-2017 18:21:17
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 30-Apr-2017 19:58:01
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If memory serves.. the 0.1.1 rom is not writable!!!
In order to use 1.1.1 rom image from Hyperion, you have to get a writable rom.
WE who bought this a1-g3 back in the day were up-graded by our dealers.
At least that's what I remember.
My A1-G3 is working fine with AmigaOS 4.1.6 |
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 1-May-2017 0:09:24
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Debian Woody is pretty old. Hypex is working on an installer for Debian Jessie, which I tested successfully on my A1SE. I could imagine that this is enough beta-testing to release it to the public. Hypex? |
I am here to beta test as well. Have worked with Hypex Linux installer releases in the past. Link me to the installer and to the required set of install CDs for the latest Debian. Will write to Hyoex as well._________________ Peg1, Peg2, Efika, Amiga 500, Amiga 1230, Amiga 4000PPC, Sam 440EP, AmigaOne XE, MacMini PPC, PowerMac G4, G5 |
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 1-May-2017 0:57:37
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WE who bought this a1-g3 back in the day were up-graded by our dealers. At least that's what I remember. |
What was the upgrade? Newer revision of SE boards?_________________ Peg1, Peg2, Efika, Amiga 500, Amiga 1230, Amiga 4000PPC, Sam 440EP, AmigaOne XE, MacMini PPC, PowerMac G4, G5 |
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 1-May-2017 3:12:02
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Just a tiny square rom chip (but writable for future rom images)
this chip is back by the pci slots, I guess it's like the bios? of the amigaone-g3 and a1-g4 |
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 1-May-2017 14:35:54
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SACC-dude wrote: @pearson101
If memory serves.. the 0.1.1 rom is not writable!!!
In order to use 1.1.1 rom image from Hyperion, you have to get a writable rom.
WE who bought this a1-g3 back in the day were up-graded by our dealers. |
Indeed, you're right! But was this the case for all A1SE motherboards?
Even if there are no dealers left that can help in this case, there are two options: - ask someone with a programming tool (like a TL866 or Galep) to program a new flash ROM (they don't cost that much) or - send the pure U-Boot image to one of these small companies that flash BIOS chips for you.
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Just a tiny square rom chip (but writable for future rom images)
this chip is back by the pci slots, I guess it's like the bios? of the amigaone-g3 and a1-g4 |
Right, its the socketed chip near the first 33MHz PCI slot (just below the Winbond SRAM for the U-Boot config).Last edited by Geri on 01-May-2017 at 02:40 PM.
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 1-May-2017 15:49:27
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 2-May-2017 20:53:58
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Hypex is working on an installer for Debian Jessie, which I tested successfully on my A1SE. I could imagine that this is enough beta-testing to release it to the public. Hypex? |
Oh no. It has issues. Really, it worked on your SE? Did I read the memo? I'll look. |
Okay, I still have to do a full installation on my A1SE, but I could successfully boot the installer. And that's what counts most on this board!
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A note from my side: The installer expects an existing OS4 installation in the sense that the slb_v2 bootloader should be installed in the RDB. Also its best to put the Linux boot partition right after the OS4 system partition to make sure that the a1boot.conf file for Linux is correctly detected by slb_v2.
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Good luck! Did I say beta? Beta everybody. Beta. Get your beta here! No refunds, Linux is free. |
Ah, let's say its release candidate 1. _________________ A1SE: G3@600MHz, 2GB, 1GBit network card A1XE: G4@933MHz, 2GB, refitted AC'97 codec microA1: G3@800MHz, 1GB
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 5-May-2017 7:59:25
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Hi Guys thanks for the advise but i think its a dead duck looks like as you said the rom needs to be unlocked
Also thanks for your help.
Still cant find the bios image out there for the flashing or a tool to do this just to see if the chip is locked
Also i have tried the iso link that was sent by hypex thanks to him but i have to had a previous os 4.0 install already in which i have nothing.
Thanks everyone for the help
if anyone can image there harddrive maybe try that but i will need to still flash the uboot.
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 5-May-2017 8:05:44
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Hi thats for the advise no got no other cards installed the bios maybe locked i think |
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 5-May-2017 8:09:29
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can it be possible to copy your harddrive image, maybe i could get my system working from a working harddrive image, but i may need to flash the bios to the later still
thanks for your advise people
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 5-May-2017 9:34:08
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 5-May-2017 9:46:12
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I have tried everything accept flashing the bios h-boot has anybody got a copy and flashing tools to do this as i am really stuck on this one if you have that will be great i will try to update the bios.
Also can anyone remember the person who could re-flash the bios chip to the latest firmware, that will be great for the information- i have also read on another forum somewhere that somebody called sven from switzerland i recall from the article who was one of the original developers who could only re-flash the chip but i am not sure on this one this was going back to 2008 when this post was mentioned a long time back lol.
Thanks again guys for your support
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 5-May-2017 13:34:05
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 5-May-2017 14:51:39
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First did you get any OS4 CDs with your board? You should have at least the developer pre-release. Since you do have a developer board.
Next, did you test the U-Boot updater from floppy or CD, and it failed to update?
As to my Jessie installer needing OS4, all it really requires is a bootable FFS partition, even an empty one. I don't recall if it checks for FFS2, but it might, which is DOS7. A FFS partition can be set up from the Linux partitioner, but it may not be able to create DOS7. In any case you will need an RDB partitioned HD with slb_v2 and without a working OS4 CD will be almost impossible to set up. However, can it still boot?
As to my Etch CD, I don't recall seeing that issue before, but it looks like the boot image loaded in is somehow corrupted. Or is missing a root specifier. USB is known to cause trouble on an A1SE. The following added to the boot args will disable it. Also you have "root=/dev/ram" set in boot args? usbcore.nousb=Y
As you point out, you will still eventually need an updated UBoot, since the slb_v2 boot loader needed won't be able to load and boot OS4. Last edited by Hypex on 05-May-2017 at 02:53 PM.
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Re: Amiga one SE cant install OS 4.0 or Debian Posted on 5-May-2017 15:38:15
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