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AmigaBlitter 
An NG Amiga review like the good old days
Posted on 25-May-2017 8:43:44
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Found this nice article this morning on arsTechnica.
It was exciting, emotional.

It seemed to me just like in the good old days when i was reading editorial in a magazine that received a computer to try and evaluate for the audience.

This time is online, of course

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2017/05/the-a-eon-amiga-x5000-reviewed-the-beloved-amiga-meets-2017/

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Re: An NG Amiga review like the good old days
Posted on 25-May-2017 8:52:57
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@AmigaBlitter

Quote:
It was exciting, emotional.


a review should be balanced. not emotional.

i wonder about people reading stuff like this:
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CPU Dual-core Freescale CPU up to 2.5GHz
RAM Up to 64GB RAM

not being properly told that they cannot use these features to the extent advertised, except with linux.
nothing exactly new, this attitude, just hope, this doesnt backfire.

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wawa 
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Posted on 25-May-2017 8:55:52
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wow, even the tittle is wrong (misleading):
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The A-EON Amiga X5000

oh, boy..

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Posted on 25-May-2017 8:57:50
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@wawa

I don't think any of the ArsTechnica readers really minds the title slip up. They only forgot a "One".

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resle 
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Posted on 25-May-2017 9:00:15
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Not the only slip. In their review, the Xena became "Xenu"...

... which I find quite fitting..

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wawa 
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forgot.. huh? how about if they have forgotten "amiga" ;)

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WolfpackN64 
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Posted on 25-May-2017 9:03:33
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@wawa

Can you really fault ArsTechnica for that? It's quite a solid read and I think they did a good job.

I'd say forgetting the "Amiga" would be worse then forgetting the "One".

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Posted on 25-May-2017 9:22:48
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I like it very much.


The article proves that you can actually buy an Amiga

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@AmigaBlitter

Sorry, i didn't noticed that there was another thread opened for this.

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Posted on 25-May-2017 9:36:09
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WolfpackN64 wrote:

Can you really fault ArsTechnica for that?


The article is from Jeremy Reimer a known Amiga and AmigaOS4 fan, I can't blame him for being enthusiastic.

https://arstechnica.com/author/jeremy-reimer-2/

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It's quite a solid read and I think they did a good job.

I'd say forgetting the "Amiga" would be worse then forgetting the "One".


But we could blame him for being misleading, this could be called either just a little error or pure propaganda.

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I don't think "propaganda" is really his intention. Send him a mail, he might correct the article.

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Commenter IcyEyeG from that article sounds awfully similar to some of the people here with their constant ramblings. Recent AmigaOnes are still more Amiga than Aros/Vamp/nonstalgia eab pc guys put together.

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@thread

Any publicity is better than no publicity and it is even more welcome when it is positive advocacy.


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Posted on 25-May-2017 13:02:19
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@resle

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Not the only slip. In their review, the Xena became "Xenu"...


Lord Xenu and his 2.5 GHz X5000 computer!
The Scientologists will love this. Maybe we should market it to them.

BTW - It looks like they corrected that error in the article, BUT there IS this "The biggest improvement was adding memory protection".

REALLY? That IS a goal for 4.2, but to the best of my knowledge, it hasn't been implemented yet.

And, actually the cores run at 2.0 to 2.2 GHz (for the four core), also Xena hasn't proven particularly useful, but what the heck.

Damn, I'm actually an advocate of this system, but inaccurate, overtly emotional/irrational analysis' don't benefit us.

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BTW - It looks like they corrected that error in the article, BUT there IS this "The biggest improvement was adding memory protection".

REALLY? That IS a goal for 4.2, but to the best of my knowledge, it hasn't been implemented yet.


If your looking at original road map from Amiga Inc, that road map is totally outdated and wrong.

AmigaOS4.1 has memory protection, there is private and shared memory system, not allocated memory is protected and so on,

when ever you See a GRIM popping up with a DSI error, the OS is telling you that program is trying to write protected memory page.

Memory protection is not as bullet prof as under Linux or Windows, but is helps developer debug program they are writing. Grim provides stack traces so developers can see where there programs fail in there program code.

Memory protection is probably way many AmigaOS3.x program don't work on AmigaOS4.1.

AmigaOS4.1 also has paged memory and swap.

http://wiki.amigaos.net/wiki/Exec_Memory_Allocation

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Posted on 25-May-2017 14:58:10
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@iggy

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The biggest improvement was adding memory protection, which was done in version 4.0.


hahaha.. looks like i need to read that article after all. not just the headline. there likely are more gems to discover than i expected. it might be really awsome, when someone actually bought the stuff based on this informations, just to discover the truth. i fear it wont happen, though.

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Posted on 25-May-2017 15:19:07
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It's quite a solid read and I think they did a good job.

No it's not. Here's how he describes the hardware:

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In some respects, it's more closely related to its predecessors than either modern PCs or Macintoshes. [...] Overall, the hardware is a mix between custom Amiga parts and standard PC hardware

Huh?

About the OS:

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The biggest improvement was adding memory protection, which was done in version 4.0. [...] This new version of 4.1 (it could easily have been called 4.2, but instead is called "AmigaOS 4.1 Final Edition")

Again: Huh?

It's a nice piece of fluff, but I wouldn't describe it as a 'review'.

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Posted on 25-May-2017 15:23:24
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@cgutjahr

If he means obscure CPU and Xena decoration, then there is nothing wrong in that statement.


To be fair, I too don´t like inconsistent use of AmigaOne/Amiga in the article. However, this reflects, how general public sees AmigaOne hardware.

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cgutjahr 
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@iggy

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That IS a goal for 4.2, but to the best of my knowledge, it hasn't been implemented yet.

I don't think anybody ever hinted at memory protection for any 4.x OS version. Not even Steven "I don't like the term SMP" Solie was that insane.

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WolfpackN64 
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@cgutjahr

I think he meant that many of the parts of the X5000 aren't common to a PC and the custom motherboard that was manufactured. I don't think he meant "More like an Amiga" in the sense of custom chipsets.

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