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TheAMIgaOne 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 11:46:07
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@Spectre660

Something makes me think it could be a price change for export, probably down to exchange rate/brexit (UK leaving the EU for those who don't know)

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Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 11:56:31
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well the £ has dropped again against the other currencies, something i think to do with a certain Jeremy Corbyn getting a bump in the poll ratings. Believe me if he gets in, he will be a threat to world peace....

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Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 11:58:05
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Corbyn? Don't tell me you're of the "strong and stable" troupe? If anything, the Conservatives economic policies are not working, that should be pretty clear by now.

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outrun1978 
Re: A sad day
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i've already voted and will vote how i see fit like everyone else has the right to and like everyone else should, i keep the vote between me and the sealed envelope i posted in the post box this morning...


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Epsilon 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 12:04:54
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@all

It appears when I checked the websites today that Amigakit may now be selling the x5000 for substantially less than the dealers who got initial stock to sell are selling it for.

Compare the EUR price for X5000 system direct from amigakit to the same system on Alinea for example:

https://www.amiga-shop.net/Amiga-Hardware/New-Amiga-Computers/AmigaONE-X5000-complete-system::790.html

http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=37&products_id=1303

Not a small difference, unless I have missed something obvious in what is included?

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outrun1978 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 12:06:48
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@Epsilon

are you getting one?

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zzd10h 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 12:19:37
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@Epsilon

"Not a small difference, unless I have missed something obvious in what is included? "

It seems that Amigakit one doesn't include a SSD unlike Alinea or Amedia ones.

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Yogi27 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 12:21:13
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Hi Everyone!

Being a long time Amiga user in the United States, and I have bought everything from A1-XE to AmigaOne 500, I was thrilled that we finally had an Amiga dealer in the USA again after Software Hut went away.

I was getting ready to buy An Amiga X5000 and the A1222. I want to buy this from an American dealer, so please, I am begging, solve this problem guys!! Haven`t we had enough fighting in the Amiga Community.

Thanks,

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OneTimer1 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 12:42:15
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Quote:

sundown wrote:
http://amigaonthelake.com/



I can't talk for all, but a lot of Ex Amiga distributors doesn't work together with A-Eon/AmigaKit. This is just another one who doesn't want to. I don't know any details but it seems as if AmigaKit/A-Eon does something wrong. This is might cripple AmigaKit/A-Eons success in a long run.

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fishy_fis 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 12:56:58
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Holy cow. 36 pounds for an additional 2gig ddr3-1333 from amikit.
That's more than a lot of 8gig (2x4G) kits of ddr3-1866. My local dealer lists 2Gig of ddr3-1600 at $17 AUD (about 7 pounds). Always knew they were a bit pricey compared to most places, but over %500 difference is a bit of a surprise.

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jaokim 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 13:06:01
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Could it be a breach of NDA?
Quote from the arstechnica article:

Quote:
The model I received was a pre-production version


Something like you aren't allowed to make public displays of a pre-production board, and to assure that, you had to sign an NDA?

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Kronos 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 13:19:49
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@jaokim

X5000s have been on public display for years (often running MorphOS ) and it does seem a case of AOTL being frustrated with AEONkit not the other way round.

AEONKit undercutting it's distributors seems the most obvious trigger.

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Rob 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 14:09:54
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@fishy_fis

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Holy cow. 36 pounds for an additional 2gig ddr3-1333 from amikit.


It looks like they've cocked up somewhere on the website's scripting. If you go to the page for bare boards you can select 2GB for £18 or 4GB for £36. I assume they used the bare board page as a template and forgot change the 4GB option to £18.

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Could it be a breach of NDA?
Quote from the arstechnica article:

Quote:
The model I received was a pre-production version


Something like you aren't allowed to make public displays of a pre-production board, and to assure that, you had to sign an NDA?


He's referring to the case not being screen printed with the AmigaONE and Boingball branding. I don't know how long ago he got the system but I think some of the first system didn't have the branded cover although I think they were supposed to send them in retrospect. the later 2300 case they had to switch to doesn't have a branded cover at all.

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AEONKit undercutting it's distributors seems the most obvious trigger.


The last archive of their X5000 page was from 27/02/2017 and listed a complete system for $1840. prior to the case change it was £1865.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170227181154/http://amigaonthelake.com/amigaone-x5000-system-first-encounters-bundle/

https://web.archive.org/web/20161012105240/http://amigaonthelake.com:80/amigaone-x5000-system-first-encounters-bundle/

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Kronos 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 14:43:24
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@Rob

Now substract 20%(?) VAT from AEONKit's price and your getting somewhere.

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Rob 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 15:10:13
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@Kronos

I see, Amigakit were undercutting them by a whole £21. You couldn't possibly explain that away with exchange rate fluctuations. What scamps!

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duga 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 15:37:33
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@Rob

Don't confuse $ with £.

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BigD 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 16:07:40
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@Rob

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He's referring to the case not being screen printed with the AmigaONE and Boingball branding. I don't know how long ago he got the system but I think some of the first system didn't have the branded cover although I think they were supposed to send them in retrospect. the later 2300 case they had to switch to doesn't have a branded cover at all.


The Fractal Case wasn't available in large supply in North America. AmigaKit had the screen printed doors and it's not their fault Amiga on the Lake couldn't source the correct cases.

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Rob 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 17:01:57
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@duga

Quote:
Don't confuse $ with £.


I wonder why I was on xe.com earlier.

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Kronos 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 17:11:00
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@Rob

Wether they were or were not undercutting depends on what margins (if any) AOTL had at those prices.
It also seems that AEONKit offered "free" extras that customers had to pay for at AOTL.

Whatever it was, either the AOTL is a whiney crybaby making a big fuss about nothing (not that that would be a 1st in AmigaLALAnd) or something went seriously wrong between AEON and it distributors.

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Rob 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 27-May-2017 17:26:06
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@Kronos

Quote:
Wether they were or were not undercutting depends on what margins (if any) AOTL had at those prices.


I think any profit AOTL were making was ploughed straight back into the Amiga community with their donations program.

Quote:
Whatever it was, either the AOTL is a whiney crybaby making a big fuss about nothing (not that that would be a 1st in AmigaLALAnd) or something went seriously wrong between AEON and it distributors.


I'm not interested in blaming anyone when we don't know the details. Both parties care about the Amiga so it's sad for everyone that there's been a bust up between the too.

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