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WolfpackN64 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 18:58:30
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@outrun1978

Possibly, but that's still speculation. In the mean time, it looks like this thread has been derailing hard.

I hope they get this figured out, because AOTL also selling products of Hyperion meant mainly for A-EON machines is going to be a weird situation.

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Re: A sad day
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@iggy

[quote]Then again, this is the British we are talking about[/quote


I am not sure its always a good idea to insult another the inhabitants of another country (particuarly my own), but hey when you have elected the buffon you have to represent you all on the World stage, id personally keep my insults about other nationalities to myself.


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Re: A sad day
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@WolfpackN64

I agree I hope they do get stuff figured out

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iggy 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:02:45
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@outrun1978

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id personally keep my insults about other nationalities to myself


Hey, its fair game, you're the people that came up with the whole "service economy" idea anyway.
And after I saw W and Blair together, I kind of lost the last remaining shreds of respect I had for either of our country's leaders.

BTW - Our current buffoon is off touring "over there", which makes us just one step better than we were before.

@WolfpackN64

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...because AOTL also selling products of Hyperion...


Its also for Acube, Classic hardware, and emulation, not just Aeon hardware.
And they didn't say they wouldn't sell Hyperion products, just stuff vended by AmigaKit.

Which possibly means that their primary beef is with Matt's company.

And yes, I'd hope for a resolution too.

BTW - I'll try to lay off the Tommies.
But when it came to sensible marketing, we learned more from the Dutch than the English (my own State was settled by the Dutch).

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WolfpackN64 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:03:50
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@iggy

Yeah, about that, can you take him back? We don't want him in Belgium

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iggy 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:13:48
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@WolfpackN64

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Yeah, about that, can you take him back? We don't want him in Belgium


Can't you just keep him occupied?
You know, let him bluster, conflate his ego, distract him?

He's only going to f' things up when he gets back.

BTW - We are supposed to keep this focused on Aaron, AOTL, and AmigaKit (and therefore Matt "I want your trademark" Leaman).

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Overflow 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:18:39
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@iggy

The problem is that the establishment democrats insist on running with the *RUSSIANS!!" excuse 24/7, without providing a SHRED of evidence. Its just accusations.

BUT, since we know that ALL countries in the world conduct a certain level of cyber-warfare, spying and/or hacking, lets for arguments sake say it actually was the russians that provided Wikileaks with the emails.

A person is ONLY vunerable to release of email exchange IF the CONTENT of said emails contains evidence that the person/politician is corrupt, lying or being deciteful.
It was spelled out very clearly that she had ONE public opinion, and one for the donors.

So basically Hillary is saying "If I hadnt been caught lying, I would be your president now!!". Great moral highground.

Trump is just the symptom of the systemic corruption.

Take a look at IMF/EU and how they are DESTROYING the Greek economy. IMF does the bidding of USA, so while its the Germans that is pushing for austerity, it would not be happening without the consent of USA.
Greece is asked to pay a debt, but the austerity is contracting the economy. Last time I checked, over a month ago, it had contracted 30%. If you couldnt pay your bills when before, what makes you think they can pay now?! So its just a game of breaking up the assets of Greece and sell them off.

And THAT is the system Hillary personified this election, and while alot of voters already knew it to a certain extent, the Wikileaks comfirmed it.
That said, she got wiped out by Obama on her first run for the presidency, so maybe DNC pushed what they KNEW was a flawed candidate. They rather loose to Trump than win with Bernie.

So YOUR outrage should not be directed towards what the Russians MIGHT have done, but rather towards DNC (and donors).

And Russia/Putin is no angel, and journalistic freedom isnt great in Russia. But just take a look at the jailing of journalists in for example North Dakota the last months, granades against protestors etc over a pipeline.
And USA has prepeptuated extremism ever since the Saudi family and Roosevelt made a pact, where Saudi securiy was guaranteed.
The destuction at Russian hands is miniscule compared to that of USA.

(Oh, I lived 3.5 years in USA, and I really enjoyed it. So I have no grief with its people, just its leaders).

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iggy 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:36:56
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@Overflow

Sure, its the fault of the last political party to balance our national budget and leave us with a surplus.
And the Russians and Koreans haven't actively engaged in cyber warfare.

Hell, from what I understand, its warm and balmy in Norway too.

In the meanwhile, good thing you're in Norway, as we obviously had more than enough loons voting in our last election.

Finally, you might be right about politicians, IN GENERAL, but I'm not going to blame the party that has made significant strides to cleaning up W's stupidity.

BTW - What do you think of the TOPIC? You know, AOTL, us now having to buy directly from AmigaKit?
etc...

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RobertJDohnert 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:41:00
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@iggy

As a business owner myself, we run into issues with suppliers and we have disagreements with suppliers and sometimes they get resolved and sometimes they do not. I guess this is a wait and see situation. They may resolve their issues and become friends again.

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Spectre660 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:42:09
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@iggy

No evidence of you being a member of the group anyone buying an A-eon product.


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@Overflow

BTW - What do you think of the TOPIC? You know, AOTL, us now having to buy directly from AmigaKit?
etc...

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QuikSanz 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:43:20
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@iggy,

Surplus? Where? Last I looked we were almost 20 Trillion Dollars in debt, so much that stacked $1 bills would go to the moon many times. Democrats are addicted to OPM, "Other Peoples Money" and spend it like drunken sailors, sorry Navy guys.

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iggy 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:46:05
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@Spectre660

English, damn it man, English.
I can't parse that.

If you mean I haven't bought an X5000 yet, you'd be right.
I was conflicted as to whether to buy the current model, or wait for the 4 core version.

And, I have been an advocate of this system since BEFORE you started using that moniker.
AND, unlike you, I am NOT an advocate of the A1222.

So, what's your point, mouthpiece?

@QuikSanz

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Democrats are addicted to OPM, "Other Peoples Money" and spend it like drunken sailors, sorry Navy guys.


And yet, before the Obama administration, the highest deficit spenders were 1) Ronald Reagan and 2) George W. Bush!

Hey, real fiscal responsibility there.

Don't worry, government will still be about "other people's money" it just won't be based on taxing those who SHOULD be paying.
Like the Alternative Minimum Tax Trump wants to do away with, completely eliminating HIS tax burden while setting a 35% maximum that is only likely to be paid by those without corporate loopholes.

Get real.
If its already spent, it HAS to be paid.
And that is NOT what Republicans are about.
THEY want to spend AND lower taxes.

That supply side BS didn't work the last time, and it won't work now.
So bite me, the Republican party is only for the truly deluded.

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Overflow 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:46:45
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@iggy

Unless AOL and/or Amigakit makes statement regarding the original topic with clarifications, its impossible for me to have an opinion.
Ive been a longtime customer of Amigakit/Matthew and have nothing but positive expirience with them/him.

That said, others voche equally positive for AOL, hence I remain neutral to it all until I get details.

I dont like speculations, like kas1e obviously being Putins prime hacker working together with Assange.
The evidence is to be deduced from kas1e being so busy with hacking that he doesnt have time to develop for AOS atm.

And the evidence I present is as strong as US goverment presented. And yes, I read the official report.

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Spectre660 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:51:51
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@iggy

Call me mouthpiece all you want fake piece .

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@Spectre660

English, damn it man, English.
I can't parse that.

If you mean I haven't bought an X5000 yet, you'd be right.
I was conflicted as to whether to buy the current model, or wait for the 4 core version.

And, I have been an advocate of this system since BEFORE you started using that moniker.
AND, unlike you, I am NOT an advocate of the A1222.

So, what's your point, mouthpiece?

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BigD 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:51:59
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@iggy

As already stated C= burned ALL their distribution channels with computer enthusiast retailers and they still staggered on for the best part of a decade. At least we can buy new hardware from AmigaKit and it is more important to me that the MAIN Amiga retailer is financially healthy. If the market can't support two large Amiga retailers then so be it. Jack Tramiel upset more than a few people in business but was generally believed to be the difference in making C= successful compared to Medi Ali and Gould. Maybe you can't make friends in business. It must be hard that for once a technology IP and whole source code history has been poached from America by a conglomerate of European companies. I guess if the American businessman in the 90s had made a success of Commodore it would have been the British retailers being pushed out of business under the guise of global restructuring

... and yes I've seen an American multinational treat the UK operation like an unwanted irritant not worthy of a proper factory or its own design team. Don't tell me Americans generally handle this stuff better because they don't. If anything they are MORE brutal and unless you're German (there's definitely more respect for German engineers and businesses) you'd better worry about whether they deem any international wing of their businesses ripe for closure and restructuring.

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iggy 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:54:54
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@Spectre660

I don't get my hardware free jack hole.

@ Big D, you're...right, we ARE brutal.
Its what we've been taught to do, and the man that just stopped by your country is a prime example of that ethic.

Wish I could say I wasn't trying to stir you guys up, but if you haven't guessed...

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WolfpackN64 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 19:56:07
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@iggy

Can we keep it civilized here?

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iggy 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 20:01:37
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@WolfpackN64

Sorry...for you, I will.
But its hard to take our resident Linux guru seriously when he's been so tightly involved in trying to shove Tabor down our throats.
And then he has the nerve to question MY commitments?

I can be pretty obnoxious, but I won't try to sell you a bill of goods.

BTW - Thanks for the pointer to the older OS'.
I'm setting up something based on that right now.

And come to think of it, I'll focus on that for awhile, because discussing politics on a computer forum is both inappropriate and pointless.

Backing off for a couple hours...

Jim

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WolfpackN64 
Re: A sad day
Posted on 28-May-2017 20:05:34
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@iggy

People question each others commitments far too often on this forum. Looks like people forget that computers and programming can be a difficult hobby or job and.

I like to see people being passionate about things, but we must not lose ourselves or become angry for it.

And I'm glad I could give you a heads up what happened to the rest of the legacy systems

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Re: A sad day
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@iggy

I pay for some of mine fake piece.
Especially the more expensive stuff .

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I don't get my hardware free jack hole.

@ Big D, you're...right, we ARE brutal.
Its what we've been taught to do, and the man that just stopped by your country is a prime example of that ethic.

Wish I could say I wasn't trying to stir you guys up, but if you haven't guessed...

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