@RobertJDohnert

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So with 4.2 being released relatively soon and so much work going into that product. Whats next?

LOL? Where was it announced OS4.2 was coming any time soon?

To me OS5 is some x86 OS that looks like Workbench. Or even, some modern version of AmigaOS that never happened, as is typical in Amiga history, 15 years ago, running on some future CPU like PowerPC or something.

OS4 is where it is at and will be at for the next...century? Oh sorry think I meant decade. But that just seems so short.

If ever there is a jump to a version OS5, that would be sure to imply a jump in CPU architecture.

What is interesting is that Hyperion always stated that because of an agreement with Amiga (The Inc) they didn't have a license to port AmigaOS[4] over to x86. Yet, The Inc were a pro x86 company. So that didn't make sense. And with talks I had with Bill (The Mac) personally he was keen on moving Amiga to x86. I also thought he was some kind of PC guy who didn't fully understand the Amiga but gave him the benefit of the doubt regardless.

Now Hyperion have full control over the AmigaOS4 asset, where is AmigaOS4 x86, then? I expected to see a jump in this over done discussion since Timothy De "I am" Groote" took the helm, as he almost implied x86 was on the cards, when he said OS4 could be ported to other CPU ISAs (to parathrase.).

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A) You know nothing about my business

Actually I thought he was talking about Apple.

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What is interesting is that Hyperion always stated that because of an agreement with Amiga (The Inc) they didn't have a license to port AmigaOS[4] over to x86

Not exactly.

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As for "PPC only license": both AInc (Amithlon, Amiga Games Inc.) and Hyperion (layers.lib v54 on Aminet) have issued licenses for 68k code. The Ben Hermans quote about "some licences being tied to PPC only" most certainly refers to the licenses he has from the OS4 developers for their *new* code. He couldn't buy the code (too expensive), he licensed it. And we have no clue what these licenses say and what limitations they enforce. If I had to guess who only gave Ben a license for PPC, the Friedens come to mind immediately.

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Here's how I see it:
AmigaOS 4.2 will be released relatively soon (emphasis on the relatively). As its major-point-release moniker suggests it will bring some long awaited features, but will also leave many sorely sought after features to be waited for a bit longer. (That should be their marketing slogan: AmigaOS 4.2 - Just You Wait)

Educated speculation suggests that there will be some way or mode in which AmigaOS 4.2 may be able to utilise more than a single core and address more RAM. This mode may be an experimental kernel and one would potentially choose it at boot time, allowing for developers to develop and debug and for the others to beta test. One can always boot back into "compatibility mode" and it would be more like AmigaOS 4.1.x but with enhancements as per (ir)regular updates.

When it comes to the next full major release of AmigaOS, it may be prudent to avoid potential issues with whoever is holding any rights to Amiga Inc's assets, and brand the next OS without the 5.0 and go with something like AmigaOS V

Hyperion can do something like this at any point they feel like it makes marketing sense. The OS may be branded V but the actual release number can still be 4.4.50.1000

As far as what would constitute a significant amount of development to justify a major bump, I would have to say that it would be released for an ISA other than Power. There would be sufficient enough development and progress in x86 that comfortable emulation of PPC would allow for backward compatibility.

One thing is sure. If Hyperion are able to advance the OS to a point that it can run threaded native x86 and ppc-emulated applications, it will be the most advanced hobby OS in use.

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@number6

I found what I was looking for. I would be referring to this. But it lacks details.

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Regarding your source:

Link

This is a good source of links. Funny that.

List

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I found what I was looking for. I would be referring to this. But it lacks details. Source

That quote is from 2006. Hyperion's current license is the settlement agreement which was signed in 2009. Hyperion can release code for other architectures than PPC - they gave Thor a license to release an updated layers.library on Aminet, and they're distributing 3.1 as a paid download from their website.

Amiga OS 5.0 will appear exactly 1 day after the last Amiga user/developer dies...

@EDanaII

Maybe it will be branded Flying Spider, Tiger or some thing instead.

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@RobertJDohnert

i will go in pension when i will be 70.
i hope hyperion will make me this present (os5) for that date . now i m 42

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If AmigaOS was to follow the MacOS X animal naming convention, I'd recommend the following names.

OS IV Mitchy
OS IV Worms (must come after Mitchy release)
OS IV Lemmings (to get hoards of people to follow in buying it)

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SMP has been scheduled for 4.2, I guess when that is done, next big leap will be 64bit, but that is not on the table yet. Before any that is going to happen I guess there will be lots of updates followed by 4.2, that focus on problems or issues with adding SMP. As it’s a complicated thing to make it work well.

As followed other topic lately, there lot talk about improving communication between graphic card and AmigaOS, this some might see in updates or newer versions of AmigaOS.

Down the road AmigaOS will need to support USBC/Thunderbolt, hope fully that is not going big issue.

There is support for newer network protocols like IPv6, so won't be locked out of internet.

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