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We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
Posted on 11-Sep-2017 12:55:09
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYsrmndXzWE


We are eagerly waiting for Amiga OS SMP

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
Posted on 11-Sep-2017 13:01:29
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We are eagerly waiting for Amiga OS SMP


just wait only ... two more weeks

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
Posted on 11-Sep-2017 13:18:14
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This kind of multi cpu support has always been possible on any kind of Amiga, so no need to wait ;)

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
Posted on 11-Sep-2017 13:42:14
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AROS 64bit with 4 parallel threads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C43zMLu1Z7s

AROS 64bit with 12 parallel threads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4is9ZHeFfIs

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
Posted on 11-Sep-2017 14:13:43
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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
Posted on 11-Sep-2017 16:10:06
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We can wait 200 years for SMP in AmigaOs 4.1

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Yes, you have an excuse
Posted on 11-Sep-2017 16:57:34
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It may be SMP on 1 x86 desktop with (at least) 4 cores, but it is not SMP on C64. It is MP on 4 (virtual) C64's that are communicating with each other.

To explain further: it would be like running 4 instances of UAE in Linux, having them communicate with each other to run one monster Amiga demo. But it would not, in any way, shape, or form, be SMP on Amiga.

Last edited by simplex on 11-Sep-2017 at 04:58 PM.

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
Posted on 11-Sep-2017 16:58:28
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Maybe someone should just clone AmigaOS4 like how AROS cloned AmigaOS. Call it OS4ROS. Problem solved! Runs on latest hardware. Multi threaded.

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
Posted on 11-Sep-2017 17:00:20
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what os4 functionality is missing on aros?

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
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The ability to load and run OS4 apps. Are they working on a plug in? There's an idea.

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
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what essential os4 apps are missing on aros, especially ones that are not ports form linux and cannot be simply recompiled?

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I know what is. I was just kidding...

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
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@wawa

The default AROS theme is ugly, it should have a beautiful look & feel like OS4 at the minimum.
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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
Posted on 12-Sep-2017 5:35:41
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@wawa

The default AROS theme is ugly, it should have a beautiful look & feel like OS4 at the minimum.
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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
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There is an os4 theme for aros available for years..

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Re: Yes, you have an excuse
Posted on 12-Sep-2017 6:15:05
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It is MP on 4 (virtual) C64's that are communicating with each other.

In this particular case they're not even communicating with each other, all four instances run independently without any knowledge of each other

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
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The default AROS theme is ugly, it should have a beautiful look & feel like OS4 at the minimum. Kamelito


i agree, but there is a choice. you can choose a theme you like, or disable it altogether, in which case aros simply looks like amiga with kick 3.1. also the theme formats are compatible for what i have seen, so you can use the same theme you prefer on os4 (or probably even morphos) also on aros.

what you probably actually complain about is the icon set, which also might be replaced, most conveniently at compile time. if anyone contributes a complete set that is.

so as people apparently love to customize their desktop above all else, this isnt really an issue.
anything else?

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
Posted on 12-Sep-2017 15:00:14
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Default is what I meant. When I was younger it was OK to customize the look to my needs now I just want an off the shelve experience. To that end a Modern PC fully supported would be nice, Ryzen and Nvdia for example with a nice case :)
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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
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I dunno. Workbench? Hmmm bad example. When it comes to ports nothing I suppose. Running 68K on OS? Screen dragging? Gotta be some reason why there is still interest in OS4 and spending thousands on a computer if an AROS box does the same thing and no one noticed.

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Re: We have no escuse now: c64 got multi cpu support (sort of)
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michalsc wrote:
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AROS 64bit with 4 parallel threads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C43zMLu1Z7s

AROS 64bit with 12 parallel threads:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4is9ZHeFfIs


Nice...

Last edited by Hammer on 13-Sep-2017 at 04:23 AM.

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