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fishy_fis 
P5 Products And Pricing
Posted on 28-Sep-2017 19:18:12
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From: Australia

While doing some random browsing I came across this product and price list (dated sep12).
Not sure if it's been posted here or not, but I'd not seen it yet, so decided I would.


Cyberstorm PPC2 604e 1490 euro
Cyberstorm MK4 1149 euro
Blizzard PPC2 603 1249 euro
Blizzard 1260 MK3 799 euro
Blizzard SCSI kit 5 279 euro
Blizzard 2060 MK2 with SCSI 979 euro
Blizzard 560 MK1+SCSI+ext 979 euro
Blizzard 1230 MKV 399 euro

All a bit rich for my blood, but the blizz 560 is interesting at least.
I know they've already managed to turn off many potential customers with some, let's say, "unusual" behaviour, but thought some people might be interested nonetheless.

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g01df1sh 
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Posted on 28-Sep-2017 19:25:12
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@fishy_fis

By the so called new phase5 the prices are a joke I can't see many sales at them insane prices.

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pavlor 
Re: P5 Products And Pricing
Posted on 28-Sep-2017 19:54:01
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@fishy_fis

Beware, one Amiga user I trust claims picture on their advert is of his own board. Smells bad.

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Overflow 
Re: P5 Products And Pricing
Posted on 28-Sep-2017 19:58:23
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Given the behaviour, I wouldnt purchase from them unless they physically presented a working model at a tech show.

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fishy_fis 
Re: P5 Products And Pricing
Posted on 28-Sep-2017 20:10:13
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@g01df1sh

It seems the pricing is based on the sorts of prices that ebay commands when it comes to Amiga gear.
From a business perspective I understand the pricing choices, but on the other hand I also understand the fact that ebay prices are often insane.

Us Amiga users however have taught others that a lot of us are perfectly willing to get gouged (unfortunately the few commercial entities rely on this willingness), and then say thank you so really we've collectively forged our own fates.

Little bit of a resurgance of interest in the Amiga of late. It's a shame greed, plus playing out a fantasy of being some sort of saviour has crippled peoples long term thinking. As such this current renewal of interest in the platform will quickly pass. You simply cant draw in a crowd if your hardware is priced beyond reasonable.

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Rob 
Re: P5 Products And Pricing
Posted on 29-Sep-2017 6:45:42
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@fishy_fis

Quote:
It seems the pricing is based on the sorts of prices that ebay commands when it comes to Amiga gear. From a business perspective I understand the pricing choices, but on the other hand I also understand the fact that ebay prices are often insane.


Given prices for the components, especially a 68060, and low volume productions then these are the kind of prices I'd expect. What I find more insane is the people willing to believe this guy will deliver something real.

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ilbarbax 
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Posted on 29-Sep-2017 7:07:40
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At this point get an X5000... it is a bargain

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Framiga 
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Posted on 29-Sep-2017 12:14:09
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@fishy_fis

Cyberstorm MK4?

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fishy_fis 
Re: P5 Products And Pricing
Posted on 29-Sep-2017 13:47:17
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@Framiga

That's how it was listed.
Most of these advertised products seem to have new revision numbers.

Only time will tell if this is for real or not.

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Hypex 
Re: P5 Products And Pricing
Posted on 29-Sep-2017 16:29:33
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@fishy_fis

If they are new then it's a bargain compared to old ones on eBay for the same price.

Unless UAE brought the price down.

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outrun1978 
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Posted on 29-Sep-2017 17:18:06
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@thread

and people have the cheek to moan that the X5000 is expensive.....

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QuikSanz 
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Posted on 30-Sep-2017 2:06:33
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And where did they find a stash of 060's? EC's only?

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ne_one 
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Posted on 30-Sep-2017 3:14:53
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@outrun1978

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and people have the cheek to moan that the X5000 is expensive.....


It is.

The only difference is that one is a P5 and the other is a G5.


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Birbo 
Re: P5 Products And Pricing
Posted on 30-Sep-2017 5:28:51
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@fishy_fis

New P5 is a big fake to me. Or does anyone have seen a working card yet?

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Acill 
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Posted on 30-Sep-2017 14:10:26
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@Birbo

Working and assembled? Not a single one, BUT I have seen a real blank card for the Blizzard. ITs not hard to get boards produced though. I get them made for things all the time.

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billt 
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Posted on 1-Oct-2017 3:10:40
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@Framiga

And PPC2...

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ppcamiga1 
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Posted on 1-Oct-2017 8:09:09
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After teen years of lies and false promises of gunnar von boehn , p5 cards are still fastest accelerators
for amigas made by commodore.
After 20 years.
p5 cards have MMU, FPU and with BVision 3D.
If, in the future I will buy again amiga made by commodore it will be with p5 cards.
It is good to have choice to buy something faster than vampire crap, with MMU, FPU,3D.

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Overflow 
Re: P5 Products And Pricing
Posted on 1-Oct-2017 8:18:39
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From: Norway

@ppcamiga1

Well, the Apollo/Vampire Team got physical cards you can utilize.

If/When P5 shows actual cards that can be verified, tested and reviewed by users, then they will be welcomed.

Its all about whats delivered, not about words.

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Birbo 
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Posted on 1-Oct-2017 9:10:27
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@ppcamiga1

I always knew, that you're the guy behind the new P5.

You know, you're pretty alone with your opinion here.

And my personal opinion is: you say a lot of stupid things.

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pavlor 
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Posted on 1-Oct-2017 9:44:54
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@ppcamiga1

Im no fan of Gunnar, but you cant compare Vampire with this new "Phase5". Vampire is available and delivers great features (fast CPU, RTG) for good price. Phase5 has (as of today) only bold announcements...

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