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Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 8-Oct-2017 20:05:31
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 8-Oct-2017 20:09:51
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 8-Oct-2017 20:43:41
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 9-Oct-2017 12:35:44
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I tried to verify this story by asking around. I'm told there is no announcement (yet?), those italian sites are blowing this way out of proportion. Neither Retro Games nor Cloanto are "announcing" anything. |
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 9-Oct-2017 14:15:05
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Yeah...um, this stuff isn't official and its based on a combination of leaks, rumors and speculation. And I'm not sure Cloanto has the legal standing to offer an Amiga branded computer.
Further, with zero details on what hardware would be used, it leaves me perplexed. Since an ARM based device, or some other form of emulation (Cloanto's primary market), isn't even slightly attractive to me....
This whole thing justs leave me thinking, hmm... _________________ Amiga! "Our appeal has become more selective" |
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 9-Oct-2017 14:39:52
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Mike (Cloanto) has given his official response:
Source
If you find anything similar posted anywhere else, feel free to link to it here or in the thread I just linked to above.
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 9-Oct-2017 14:47:25
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How hard can it be put this in a nice case and sell for £300-400 job done classic Amiga re-launched
http://forum.apollo-accelerators.com/viewtopic.php?t=1804
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 9-Oct-2017 16:12:06
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For £300-400 you won't even get the V4 board alone :) _________________ B5D6A1D019D5D45BCC56F4782AC220D8B3E2A6CC |
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 9-Oct-2017 20:11:33
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How much are we looking at for standalone board then? _________________ A1200 ACA1232 128MB Indivison MkIICr Elbox empty Power Tower RPi3 Emulating C64 ZX Atari PS BBC Wii with Amiga emulation Vampire v4 SA |
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 10-Oct-2017 16:01:46
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Retraction/clarification posted by site linked to in post #1 this thread.
Cloanto denies existence of 'Amiga Mini' project
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 10-Oct-2017 21:31:14
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Re price of standalone board.
Gunnar said Quote:
...Both VAMP 2 models for A500 and A600 are still continued. Majsta continues to produce both. The VAMP 4 is regarded as high end offering, using more expensive FPGA and also with higher price (+ $100). | source apollo-core forum
He also said to me a few days ago when I was speculating on their IRC channel that the standalone was likely to be ~€500 that it would be 100 more than the V2+. I was further speculating that complete systems (case, keyboard, mouse, joystick, PSU, IDE2CF, WB3.x) would start at around ~€600. |
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 10-Oct-2017 21:34:31
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| I'm not surprised that Cloanto are playing down the Amiga Mini. With Amiga trademark rights being contested and Retro Games Ltd yet to deliver any of their C64 emulators it's far too early to be confirming anything. Last edited by IanP on 10-Oct-2017 at 09:34 PM.
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 10-Oct-2017 21:52:15
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With Amiga trademark rights being contested |
Well, not all of them.
the U.K. marks
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 11-Oct-2017 8:23:58
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 11-Oct-2017 13:41:51
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As I understand things the C64 Mini keyboard isn't functional, you can plug in a USB keyboard though.
p.s. The full size The C64 is supposed to include a working keyboard. Last edited by IanP on 11-Oct-2017 at 01:50 PM.
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 11-Oct-2017 14:15:23
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| On the subject of The C64 I see that people that backed for the hand held version are instead being offered the Mini and Full Size C64's with some artwork instead of the Handheld C64 (the Handheld will be offered to them to purchase at "a discount" when (if) it's ever made). This is why I would never back an Indiegogo with a flexible goal and no prototype. The console products are very different things to the Handheld and aren't an equivalent substitute. "We believe that we should only promise what we know we can deliver; this is why we feel it necessary to substitute the handheld version with the above set." shame they didn't apply that belief when they chose to run a flexible funding crowd funding scheme. Please bare this behaviour in mind if they do ever run an Amiga Mini crowd funding project. They ran a campaign for two products and raised $100,000 of a $150,000 goal and instead of concentrating on delivering those products they instead developed something different for the retail market. Where did the money for The C64 Mini development come from? Last edited by IanP on 11-Oct-2017 at 02:25 PM. Last edited by IanP on 11-Oct-2017 at 02:23 PM.
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 11-Oct-2017 15:22:16
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g01df1sh wrote: How hard can it be put this in a nice case and sell for £300-400 job done classic Amiga re-launched
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i doubt such device would sell _really_ good. For us Amiga nuts, it would be great of course, but those just wanting to revive a childhood thing a price in that range is too much. Goods about 100 EUR/GBP are a thing for spontaneous purchases. Few ppl must intenstively consider whether they spend such an ammount or not. But 300-400 requires real consideration for many. Make a weaker device in the about 100 range and you have a good chance to actually sell it in real quantities.
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 3-Nov-2017 14:20:02
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Re: Could this be what all the copyright stuff was all about Posted on 3-Nov-2017 19:30:35
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