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Deniil715 
My poor X1000 PSU blew up!
Posted on 9-Nov-2017 20:01:33
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I switching off power in the house for 2 hours while installing new outlets for a heatpump unit, and having the X1000 switched off for about 1.5 days after. Normally I have it running 24/7.
But when trying to switch it on now, the PSU litterary blew up and tripped the circuit breaker for the room!

[img]https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HIUm7v3zDM9rIuZWvfqvDMKtTPUwYZo9/view?usp=sharing[/img]



Anyone else had a similar experience?
What replacement PSUs have you used? Only AmigaKit's/Fractal Design's original, or bought one of your own?

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Re: My poor X1000 PSU blew up!
Posted on 9-Nov-2017 20:44:36
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@Deniil715

Any PC PSU will work, my beta system has a Cool Master 600W PSU & thats probably overkill,
(Cooler Master Silent Pro 600W PSU).

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Re: My poor X1000 PSU blew up!
Posted on 9-Nov-2017 20:53:42
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@Deniil715

I would suggest going forward you look into putting even a basic UPS in between your valuable computer gear and the wall outlet.

This way any funky input power issues don't mess up your gear. An exploding power supply is no fun... there is also a chance it has caused damage in your computer. :\

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Re: My poor X1000 PSU blew up!
Posted on 9-Nov-2017 23:07:35
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@Deniil715

any will do as long as they put out enough power to run all your cards in your X1k. I personally have always found Corsair PSU's to be very reliable & quiet and +1 for getting a surge suppressor

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PR 
Re: My poor X1000 PSU blew up!
Posted on 10-Nov-2017 0:03:26
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poor old X1000 , was it turned off (and plugs off preferably)?


Never in the range of anything between an A500-manyA1200's-XE-laptop-i5 or was it 7 anyways has done that.

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Edit, the fourth heating pump installed in a few years.

Took, (or an elecronian did) it to a different circuit like here (main fuse) 25A x 3 so it doesn't give a slight "flash" as did even on the room lamp when a bigger like a heating pump turns on.

Really complicated in many different years old bigger place.

Did the own work and took one/one off and checked when the computer room is ok and the most suddenly consuming are not. New heating batteries and all listed. (Every single electric output)

Had to draw a map (if a plan of the house is to copy) . This was due changing oil to electricity ages ago. There was not enough memor.. power so should have changed to 35A x 3 , pricey.

I wonder how the A500 hold of in a summer cottage over here, Spain had very different voltages. 220 could come have from the other cable 180 from another and rest from the other.. .. Sometimes got an electric shock from the TAC-2 so had to play: feet inside a plastic bin or so.

Also offcourse if allways 24/7 on and it cools depending the room temperature.. well You knew that. So new can not even be so dusty?

Or there was something faulty and do as above described. Just this experience, nothing to do with the other? Or usually people suggest the secure ones as above that prevents from lightning too if in an certain area and have some power in reserve for power cut's.

This is not really my area of English so help better if You understand anything..


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QuikSanz 
Re: My poor X1000 PSU blew up!
Posted on 10-Nov-2017 2:18:19
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I think I would sequence those heat-pumps with some delay blocks. The start current on those must be high.

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bison 
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@Deniil715

I hope it's just your PSU and nothing further.

I used an EVGA SuperNOVA 650 on my last PC build and have been happy with it.

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Deniil715 
Re: My poor X1000 PSU blew up!
Posted on 10-Nov-2017 8:33:10
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@all

Thanks for responding

I think I will go for an EVGA B3 450W. Have 2-3 disks, 1 DVD, basic (passive) gfx-card. Nothing power hungry.

I don't think it was a surge that killed it. We have 3x63A 230V main fuse. The heatpump got its own fuse at 16A. When switching everything on I first switched on mains, then water heater, then the heatpump and last my room with the Amiga, which was off.

Then I switched on the power to the X1000, then waited 1.5 days. Then hit the powerbutton on the top of the case and BOOM. Big flash at the back and the fuse to the room blew. See the image link of the exploded chip.

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Re: My poor X1000 PSU blew up!
Posted on 10-Nov-2017 10:05:27
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@Deniil715

If the blowup occurred days after the wiring change, then it sounds to me only coincidental.

BTW, if you are in the habit of using power-hungry graphics cards, you may want to check that your new PSU has the right set of connectors for +12V supply to the GFX card. Some have 6 pins, some 8 pins...

In any case 450 W should be ample for any Amiga.

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Deniil715 
Re: My poor X1000 PSU blew up!
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@tonyw

Yeah, I also think coincidental. Couldn't handle being without power for a day when used to be running 24/7. I have a pretty light gfx-card without and separate power to it.

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Re: My poor X1000 PSU blew up!
Posted on 10-Nov-2017 14:48:59
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@Deniil715

I only really trust FSP power supplies when it comes to rare custom Amiga hardware.
They're costly, but you get a reliable piece of hardware. I guess even a 350W power supply should be sufficient for your X1000.

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Re: My poor X1000 PSU blew up!
Posted on 10-Nov-2017 22:40:27
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Certainly not a main fuse issue and wiring the not even to be too.

Here I burn my fingers in an old 25A fuse if being just burned by someones overheating but nothing has died and the machines are seperate from such jump-starters.

Just bad luck. Sometimes the New cars also can be very problematic, like this XE was sitting beside.

Good if it doesn't come to cost so much to repair as this brand new NG..

Why does the A1200 and mostly the A500 get through everything, simplicity then Yes..


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