http://www.hyperion-entertainment.com/

and obviously wishes all of you a happy New Year!

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@TRIPOS

I don't care who own what just hurry up and get os4 moving forward again us the users have been waiting far to long for os4.2 .

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@g01df1sh

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I don't care who own what just hurry up and get os4 moving forward again us the users have been waiting far to long for os4.2 .

This is not to say that the following is all that 4.2 would be. It is merely a forthright opinion from Hyperion director Costel Mincea:

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Just the support of X5000 and A1222 as new hardware would more than justify a jump to 4.2.

2nd post

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the only solution should be: free kickstart from any copyright and let the Amiga fate to community.
Stop hardware and more and more softwares

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@HyperionHolding

Happy New Year Hyperion and developers. May the year 2018 bring happiness and good health to the Amiga community, software releases and unveil some of the facts so that a more positive light is cast on you.

"Whilst we deeply regret that once again substantial resources will need to be redirected away from development to litigation, Hyperion Entertainment has every intention to vigorously defend its rights in court and by doing so, defend the rights of our licensees."

Although it is sad to see yet again money in the Amiga world being spent on lawyers not on development I cant help but think what development have we seen with OS4, yes it been ported to the X5000 and slowly to A1222, this is no small task but I feel it taken them a year or two too long to support these new platforms and A-EON I guess would of paid for some of this development and from what I hear a lot of work and updates made for OS4 now are just done for free from cool devs who want to improve the OS and are not getting paid for it.

So I cant help but feel if resources and money is so tight that OS4 development can no longer be funded whats the point of owing it ip? just to try and sell it one day?

I'm pretty sure Cloanto & Hyperion has seen the success and rise of the retro market (look at Nintendo Mini) and Kickstarter projects like A1200 case remade and Amiga Years Film made a lot of money (for the Amiga market anyway) would be daft to not want to try and capitalist on this market more but as always I think a messy copyright / ip for the Amiga has kinda stopped some of these projects from taken off. I think Cloanto with Retro Games ltd wanted to make a mini amiga but is most likely prevented due to the legal stuff.

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Why can't the two companies simply work together for the common good of the platform and its userbase?

I guess the answer centers around the word 'greed' and that's unfortunate!

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I don't think it's greed. Fear of loss maybe..

@Amigo1

A-EON, AmigaKit and Cloanto seem to be able to play nice. Why not Hyperion and Cloanto? Sad times

They're fighting over the Amiga's remains like scraps at a Buddhist 'Sky Burial' .

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Together 2018.

All support to devs.

Now a week to rest and back to work. (Plan over here)

Forget about the bad, Amiga Rulez!

Happy New Year.


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@HyperionHolding

You have no exclusive rights to development of OS3 for 68k, this claim will be the nail in your coffin. And your only customers, the few devoted to OS4, will suffer. So why are you doing this?

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You have no exclusive rights to development of OS3 for 68k

Quite opposite, even Cloanto doesn´t claim "legal access" to the source code.

@pavlor

As is very obvious on Amiga, sources are not needed to do development. All Hyperion's rights were granted in relation to OS4 development. They can do OS3 development too, but they do not have exclusive rights to do so.

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@kolla

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As is very obvious on Amiga, sources are not needed to do development

Of course, Cloanto can develop their own OS components from scratch.

@thread

The companies involved need to rebuild the 68k market as I still see money in it - and a healthy user base.

Amiga needs constant supply of cheap 68k developer boards.

Real 68k processor + real PPC processor + minimig FPGA core on a card for a PC. 80 USD.

Produce new developer tools for windows/mac/linux 68k / fpga communication.

Give a few samples for feedback to a few top universities teaching Electrical Engineering + / computer science / micro-controller courses .

Right now Universities are using expensive 68k micro-controllers or moving away to arm.

I would rather they learn and develop 68k assembler skills, then move to using FPGA Amiga systems programming then the whole spectrum of Arduino like projects could be created - providing a sort of new breed of developers.

Every year new students need these boards, if we keep them in stock at all times - endless 68k ecosystem is being grown.

New software on PC side for 68k programming and open source 68k projects all creating a new ecosystem, eventually they could start using 68k FPGA - maybe PPC OS4 systems.

One board, to merge cross development of 2 processors and an FPGA amiga.

Developers developers developers - NEW developers, Amiga API experienced.

What also would be good would be official online AmigaOS server, to develop Amiga C/C++ programs with graphics APIs.

AmigaOS API also need alot of improvements, more dat/api abstraction. dynamic address stacks.
2017 C coding standards.

I dont know how many of your staff have gone on a C/C++ data security course.

data sanitization

Data security in C


Top 10 Bug Killing Code standards video

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@asymetrix

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asymetrix wrote: @thread Real 68k processor + real PPC processor + minimig FPGA core on a card for a PC. 80 USD.

a) In what world could something like that be made for 80$?

b) To what point?

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@asymetrix

custom made board with real 68k processor and real PPC processor sold for 80$?

Please @HyperionHolding and Cloanto stop this pathetic alfa male "who has the biggest d*ck" behaviour that nothing but harms the fragile Amiga community and act in line with the following open letter: http://amiga-news.de/en/news/AN-2017-12-00052-EN.html

@Thread

While I would never condone piracy these actions of two of the last Amiga companies left trading is a primary reason some users give them middle finger and just download pirated ROMs and operating systems for their Vampires etc. The average Joe will think these companies are doomed like Commodore was with all its internal infighting. They need to settle out of court or sell out their IP to A-EON, a company that has yet to show a corporate ego.

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