I thought I'd give 3D modelling / animation a shot to see if I enjoy it as much as 2D animation! I've managed to get LightWave 5.0r running on my 'miggy but wonder how representative the work processes are to 'modern' packages like Maya? Is it worth me persevering? I can see that there's a sense of achievement when the Amiga renders your hard work at the end! However, I haven't really messed with 3D since Cyber Studio CAD-3D 2.0 on the Atari ST in the 80s so I'm a bit rusty!

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@BigD

lightwave has nothing in common with maya or softimage or whatever. never had. they are all different beasts. if you know one means not youll be familiar with the others. there are even essential changes in further versions of lightwave. for worse. im sorry i dont really know what to recommend.

edit: however as i recall, early lightwave versions such as these for amiga are almost self explanatory and really easy to master. modelling is pretty straightforward. what isnt intuitional is the usage of bones/skeletons.

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@wawa

Will it be fun though? It doesn't seem something I'll be able to just muddle through so I'm prepared to study the manual. Are there any good tutorials for noobs? Maybe how to animate a StarFighter or something like that?

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@wawa

I'm also impressed the Amiga modeller constituent program can create stuff like this!

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Used for the Real 3D or Imagine.

Really needs the power, fpu or after modelling leave it to do it for a week.

Vista & all was nice.

Just made an advert with DP V as hate any pc proggies.

Hate to transfer the files too but Amiga Rulez. (Or just don't know how to use the others)

@BigD

i think it can well be fun. you dont need the manual most of the time. as i said, i had to look into the manual only in case of bones.

@wawa

While I could learn how to move the object, light source and camera intuitively enough and could see the frame animation control was a bit similar to DPaint I couldn't really see how to program the object to move/fly in a direction over a set number of frames like the DPaint MOVE tool etc. As for 'modelling' an object from scratch, I would have no idea wher to begin to be honest

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To be honest too getting older with these. Think 3D instead of DPaint but it is usable knowledge.

Wire model, see trough it , make light sources.

The Best for me in Imagine etc all Amiga Format and others gave the proggies for free, (well if bought a thousand Amiga magazines counts for free)

got the best experience with the example model chevy cadillac 59. Then got the A4000 and my lovely cousin visited once in a weekend and put it rendering for days.

Thanks for that..

So my suggestion is to get some examples, part them away and when learned make better.

A Bit jelaous if time as still have few migas to put top notch.

Happy Rendering!

Best Regards, 060&XE&Megafast cp..

What ever happened to Aladdin4D?

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wawa wrote: ... lightwave has nothing in common with maya or softimage or whatever ...

Do you know if the modellers used on these programs are so different?

To me it seems the biggest problems is understanding how to create 3D models and I thought this might be the same on most 3D render programs.

@thread

POV and Blender are available for AOS4 and MOS, POV is available for AROS. IMR they are still supported by a huge community, maybe this is a better way to look for.

@QuikSanz

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QuikSanz wrote: What ever happened to Aladdin4D?

A-EON Technology is pleased to announce that it has purchased the AmigaOS source code and development rights for Aladdin4D from DiscreetFX. As part of the agreement A-EON will exclusively own the Aladdin4D 68k and PPC source code, domain name, brand and rights for all AmigaOS and related versions including emulation and future MorphOS and AROS ports.

Cardiff, December 12th 2014

http://www.a-eon.com/?news=12-12-2014

@OneTimer1

there are paradigms of models construction that are common to most packages like spline or polygonal modelling as opposed to what was mainly used in real3d, namely solid modelling.
but the workflow and handling the interfaces is usually so different that it is frequently hard to get simplest things done. and when it comes to animation it can be even more disappointing, when you discover that functionality you may expect behaves completely different. thats probably the reason i dont like to mess with it anymore. to efficiently work with some of this software you need to be properly schooled in it.

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@wawa

So in order to actually get properly schooled in Lightwave on the Amiga I guess this the primary resource:

http://www.bambi-amiga.co.uk/waveguide/index.html

and these tutorials will help?

http://www.intuitionbase.com/waveguide/tutorial.html

Any other ideas?

Maybe this:

http://www.voodoofrog.com/lightwave3dtutorials/introductions.htm

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@Thread

These might be good for the old Amiga versions .....

.... Youtube Tutorial:

Lightwave 3D 3.5 for Commodore Amiga [ 1994 ]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j37F7kZeyPE

History of Lightwave 3D + Tutorial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YP9a-7drztE

Amiga Lightwave 3D Quickstart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeKeJCCUICM

Amiga - Lightwave 3D - Modeler Essentials Part 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGOoE-lValk

Lightwave Tutorial - Flying Logo Techniques

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16d1bCErrng

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@BigD

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As for 'modelling' an object from scratch, I would have no idea wher to begin to be honest

Start by taking measurements from real world objects.

@Thread

I'm also interested, do all you NG Blender users prefer it to Lightwave?

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@OneTimer1

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A-EON Technology is pleased to announce that it has purchased the AmigaOS source code and development rights

I read this and thought AEON had the AmigaOS source code! LOL!

@BigD

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I'm also interested, do all you NG Blender users prefer it to Lightwave?

blender definitely borrows from lightwave. it shows everywhere. still i cant come to terms with it. the genuine lightwave interface and workflow is definitely much more idiot proof.

@BigD

I still love to work on Lightwave 5 on me Miggy.

Of course, its Retro... but I like it.

And I wonder, how it will perform on a Standalone Vampire.

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@Birbo

No doubt it'll be fast

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