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Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 11:43:19
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| Hi All
Why not port OS4 to this price is not far of X5000 price but specs are lots better.
https://www.raptorcs.com/content/TL2B01/intro.html
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 12:25:00
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 12:52:28
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the base system is 2475$ |
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 13:27:42
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Raptor is planning to release a single CPU board later this year at a much lower cost. I guess it will have options for up to 22-24 cores (?). _________________ Tinkering with computers. |
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 14:29:01
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i'd love to see AOS4 move to POWER kit, even considering the cost. that said, i have zero confidence in the ability of hyperion/A-EON/whomever to deliver that port in any sort of a timely fashion. AOS4 development is effectively dead with the exception of drivers for AMD video cards. everything else has ground to a halt.
this will never happen. more's the pity.
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 16:24:41
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Where's SATA, WiFi and it's got VGA? I expect DVI and HDMI these days. So retro. And no mention of AltiVec? |
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 17:35:34
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| @eliyahu
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eliyahu wrote: @g01df1sh
i'd love to see AOS4 move to POWER kit, even considering the cost. that said, i have zero confidence in the ability of hyperion/A-EON/whomever to deliver that port in any sort of a timely fashion. AOS4 development is effectively dead with the exception of drivers for AMD video cards. everything else has ground to a halt.
this will never happen. more's the pity.
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? What are you going to do?
This is something that would not take a large initial investment for neither AOS or MOS. That investment would be made by the users.
Since Raptor is favoring AMD cards, and from the looks of it on their wiki, most cards that are used by our OS's work, then at least that hurdle should be lower. Im sure once more people get their grubby little tinkering hands on these things even more things will popup working.
Well,,, I would pay a good price for a working Amiga-like OS on one of these. Their decision._________________ Tinkering with computers. |
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 17:37:43
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Hypex wrote: @g01df1sh
Where's SATA, WiFi and it's got VGA? I expect DVI and HDMI these days. So retro. And no mention of AltiVec? |
One of the best silly posts ever. _________________ Tinkering with computers. |
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 17:42:28
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the base price is 2475$
have you read this?
How many do you think would still buy it? Driver development and adaptions are expensive too and have to be covered by the few buyers.
In my view it would have been better to take something like that (or a cheaper one) instead of creating custom boards but A-eon has decided different. |
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 18:20:38
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Not only is it expensive, but AmigaOS can't come close to utilizing the capabilities of this board, which makes it an even bigger waste.
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 18:59:02
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 19:10:15
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Certainly poor people should not buy it.
I'm 73 and as soon as I finish painting my neighbors house I'll have more than enough to purchase one.
You want one? Quit whineing, get off your lazy arse and work for one. Just because you want everything on-the-cheap does not mean that everyone expects free everything just because they were born.
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 21:55:00
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I would buy one. Not that much more expensive than an AmigaOne X1000.
I imagine there would not be any sound stutter on a unoptimised JIT-less-e-uae with this... ;)
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 21:56:30
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 23:17:10
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Signal wrote: @OlafS25
Certainly poor people should not buy it.
I'm 73 and as soon as I finish painting my neighbors house I'll have more than enough to purchase one.
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It's not the ammount of money. It's the price/performance ratio. Hardwarewise ihe price/performance ratio of the Raptor is not too bad, but a theoretical OS4 port wouldn't utilize all the power and hence it would be a waste of power and eventually a waste of money. Quote:
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 25-Apr-2018 23:39:23
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Perhaps MorphOS could be a candidate for such a machine. It does run on Mac G5, which has a processor close to the POWER4. Of course Apple had to screw with it.
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 26-Apr-2018 0:00:42
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| I'm not advocating this Raptor computer for any OS. Where AOS, MOS or AROS go is not in my power to say. It never has been. It's been decided by a few people ever since the jump to PowerPC. The A1SE/XE were a necessary step to get AOS on that ISA, but it should never have been the blueprint for all future designs.
This computer looks to me as a possible path to a future, but again.....to me. A platform for all three OS's to develop and grow on without having a low number of units out there.
I'm just too old to put up with constant arguments and waiting (so far) six years for one item that should have been supplied when the X series went on sale.
P.S. I just ordered a RPI3 B+. Why? Computing is my HOBBY, not my frustration.
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 26-Apr-2018 10:08:01
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you would not get it for that price, the few buyers have to cover the development costs for the OS, expecially the drivers, so it would cost much more certainly
You would still buy it?
As I wrote it would have made more sense not to do "custom hardware" but take something already available but Trevor D. and A-eon decided differently
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 26-Apr-2018 10:09:22
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Signal wrote: @OlafS25
Certainly poor people should not buy it.
I'm 73 and as soon as I finish painting my neighbors house I'll have more than enough to purchase one.
You want one? Quit whineing, get off your lazy arse and work for one. Just because you want everything on-the-cheap does not mean that everyone expects free everything just because they were born.
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I admit I had a good laugh at it
You're surely right, however I guess Olaf meant there is no chance common people will buy this thing, no matter if they can afford it or not Last edited by paolone on 26-Apr-2018 at 10:09 AM.
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Re: Why not port OS4 to this Posted on 26-Apr-2018 10:09:34
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and no I do not want any myself
and I do not "whine" |
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