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News   News : Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release Begins
   posted by herewegoagain on 5-Feb-2004 12:15:52 (1502 reads)
Born from the mind of Tim Jenison and several other high tech brains at Newtek Incorporated in Topeka Kansas in 1991. The Amiga Video Toaster launched an entire industry with its power to the people price and feature set. Replacing $250,000 of broadcast quality television studio equipment the Amiga Video Toaster allowed anyone that could afford to buy a car get into video production. Newtek did it again when they added tapeless editing hardware to the Toaster in 1994, The Flyer...

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Geri 
Re: Video Toaster Flyer Source Code Release Begins
Posted on 5-Feb-2004 13:26:01
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Is there someone how can port the software to OS4 and adapt it to a new video editing hardware? (hardware from Pinnacle or so)

A very nice gesture from NewTek! (but it would be fine if they make a port of Lightwave 3D to OS4)

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tomazkid 
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Posted on 5-Feb-2004 13:27:29
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Nice gesture Newtek!

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Chunder 
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Posted on 5-Feb-2004 13:27:49
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Oooooooh! Nice one Newtek, et al!

Is this too old to be ported to OS4? I daresay that it won't be style-guide compliant...
Does it rely on the original time signal synchronisation?

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Toaks 
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Posted on 5-Feb-2004 14:02:36
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bill evans ?? ..wow O_o :)

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ikir 
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Posted on 5-Feb-2004 15:37:15
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There is also a discussion board: http://discreetfx.com/Invision/

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LordArt 
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Posted on 5-Feb-2004 16:06:57
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Considering how tied to the hardware the toaster/flyer was to the original amiga chipset, I don't think a "rewrite" would exactly be possible or worth doing (ie. to OS4 on an A1 vs OS4 on a Classic). But I haven't looked at the source code, so I certainly can't say how modular they made it to just up and swap out the hardware code. From what I understand, there is a decent amount in ASM, so your looking at also recoding ASM to C or C++.

If the interface/UI code could be lifted off, and then put over a HAL to hardware (which would be toaster/flyer, Pinnacle, etc.) then that would be interesting for sure. However, at that point, I would almost try to get the new Toaster[2] software, which has a LOT more goodies and features, but what else is new.

Just coding musing....Nevermind me.

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CanGuy 
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But I haven't looked at the source code, so I certainly can't say how modular they made it to just up and swap out the hardware code.


I took a quick look at some of the code. Basically ToasterPaint looks to be 100% assembler and some of the other apps are mostly C with some asm parts.

Zoltan

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Darth_X 
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Quote:
Is there someone how can port the software to OS4 and adapt it to a new video editing hardware? (hardware from Pinnacle or so)


THIS

(But you still need some powerful hardware, fast CPU, fast RAM, fast hard drives, etc )

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Darth_X 
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By the way, are any Video Toaster developers or users members of amigaworld.net ?

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DiscreetFX 
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I'm here

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LordArt 
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I'm a "user" of an Amiga Toaster/Flyer setup, but I'll admit I'm not sure I will find the oppertunity to use it again. I suppose it was the grand prize for almost all Amiga users to have a toaster/flyer/TBC setup. I had some reasons to use it for business reasons in the past (so I did).

The issue THESE days, is everything is digital. Meaning, any work I'm doing is ending up on DVD, so don't need to go through something like a Toaster Setup. Any compositing or special effects is now in an array of other programs specifially made to do frame by frame editing, or compositing or whatever is needed at the time. Even if it is something as silly as transposing VHS footage to DVD format.

Giving someone a DVD to watch as a demo is just as easy, if not more so, than handing them a VHS tape these days.

I'll admit, if I was in a position to run a live studio or something, the Toaster/Flyer setup would be far more usable then post production rendering than is done these days. But I'm not a live studio.

I would STILL like to see the interfaces for the software RTG compatible to use it easier on my Amiga. I AM a developer, but I don't have the free time to work on this project, before you ask that question. I wish whomever tackles this luck!

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GregS 
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I think this is more than a nice gesture -- it is a fanatastic asset given to the Amiga community, which should be developed wisely.

Could I suggest that two flavours could be aimed for, a professional level editor and a consumer editor. That the latter is of immediate importance and could with a few improvements tower over the competition in similar software.

I cannot tell you how frustrated I have been with the limited video editors I can get for XP. Each does a little of what I want, none does all I want and I seem to have little control of the quality or the form of the output.

I wish everyone involved in this project the best of luck, but please consider two distinct but compatable paths of having at its core a consumer product and then adding to that professional level controls.

Thank you Newtek for your enornously generous gift to the community.

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