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Events   Events : AmigaOS4 demonstration videos
   posted by MikeB on 18-Feb-2004 20:17:55 (2650 reads)
AmigaWorld user "AmigaOneProductions" has released a video showing AmigaOS4 demonstrated at the Amiga North Thames Usergroup meeting on the 8th of February. Also team member "Herewegoagain" made available a video showing a demonstration at the NC/SC Amiga User Group meetíng which took place on the 7th of February.

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ANT February Video now online

NC/SC Amiga User Group OS4 Beta Video
    

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Merc 
Re: AmigaOS4 demonstration videos
Posted on 18-Feb-2004 22:04:29
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Real Video?
Anyone got divx or mpeg versions of these movies?

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Anonymous 
Re: AmigaOS4 demonstration videos
Posted on 18-Feb-2004 22:25:07
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Real video stinks, give me mpeg any day

 
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ajs 
Re: AmigaOS4 demonstration videos
Posted on 18-Feb-2004 22:26:12
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Hi Merc in the thread linked above Paul explains why
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Hi,

The two formats choosen give the best compression to keep the file size down, I only have an ISDN connection, which is only marginally faster than a modem, which restricts the size I can upload in a reasonable time. When I do larger files, it usually means a trip to Tigerware Productions to use a broadband connection. When I get there next (which will be the weekend after Newcastle) I'll upload some more formats.

I have been testing out a DIVX encoder, but so far that has yet to produce a file smaller than about 400Mb, which I think is far too large, some more tweaking is required there I think.

The MPEG version is currently around 80Mb, which is still al lot larger than the RM or WM formats.




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csirac 
Re: AmigaOS4 demonstration videos
Posted on 19-Feb-2004 2:44:44
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Use XVID dammit!

XVID video + ogg audio = .ogm "Ogg Media", I've spent _hours_ tweaking/muxing, produces very good results (better than divx) but you have to put a lot of effort into tweaking the parameters especially if you haven't done any of this before... had some audio sync troubles too.

All in all, encoding sucks.

- Paul

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herewegoagain 
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Posted on 19-Feb-2004 3:11:45
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All in all, encoding sucks.


Tell me... I nearly pulled my hair out (All 3 of them. ) trying to figure out which one to use.... I did settle on Divx for the video but used WMA for the audio, but I think that was a mistake, as most seem to not be able to hear the sound from my video. Oh well, it was just a music track anyway. I also output in 640X480 when I should have done 320X200 or somthing like that. It would have played back better on slower machines and made the file smaller. I guess you live and learn.

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Toaks 
Re: AmigaOS4 demonstration videos
Posted on 19-Feb-2004 8:29:23
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i would love to see theese but i cant view any of theese formats in proper speed on my amiga ..

shame on you!!!!

hope to see an Mpeg soon, if you have a upload problem then send me a cd and i can upload it to aminet or something fo you

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Anonymous 
Re: AmigaOS4 demonstration videos
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edited by DaveP - AmiDelf trolling - read the terms and conditions please

 
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Edited by DaveP - more trolling dont you guys read the terms and conditions

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z5 
Re: AmigaOS4 demonstration videos
Posted on 19-Feb-2004 11:02:50
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The video does indicate that a lot of work still needs to be done. Wonder if it will be released this year Though i do understand the reasons why it's taking so long.

Who is the one giving the demo in the video from AmigaOneProductions?

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soft 
Re: AmigaOS4 demonstration videos
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I'm sure I've seen this movie before.

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Vader 
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@z5

Its Simon Archer, aka Rigo.

@all
I'd also just like to clarify something Simon said in the ANT video, and this is whilst Stefan is indeed working on OS4, Oliver and myself are working on IB2.4, whilst Meldon works on IB3.0, so things are still happening with regards to future IBrowse releases

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What the video indicates most, is that we will need to tighthen our rules on videos showing off half working OS 4 installations as is the case here.

The video shows OS 4 crashing every couple of minutes and rebooting being required all the time which clearly isn't the case.

At the very least this should have been made very clear.

I know that if you listen very carefully to the audio, you'll hear some kind of explanation about "it worked for me at home" but I doubt many people will have picked that up.

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The video shows OS 4 crashing every couple of minutes and rebooting being required all the time which clearly isn't the case.


I only remember the one crash, but maybe I need to go back and watch it again. But I do agree, that it not the case of how OS4 runs from what I've seen during the two demonstrations we've seen.

BTW, I've decided to leave the video work to the professionals from now own. It's definitely not my forte.

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The_Editor 
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your perfectly welcome to send me your RAW footage along with your E.D.L and I'll edit it for ya !!

But your'll never learn, that way.

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Sbaitso 
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I only remember the one crash, but maybe I need to go back and watch it again. But I do agree, that it not the case of how OS4 runs from what I've seen during the two demonstrations we've seen.


I believe that the crashes being referred to were in the AmigaOne Productions video, not yours.



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BTW, I've decided to leave the video work to the professionals from now own. It's definitely not my forte.


With some of the comments being made I can't blame you. Many people seem to enjoy seeing the video, but as always a vocal few who never seem to contribute all that much ruin it for everyone.

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BobC. 
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I'm one out of many, I'm sure, that have not seen an AmigaOne or AOS4 in "the flesh" so I'm delighted to see these videos.

I made a few videos with my A2000 and then with my Windoze machine. I know how difficult and time consuming they can be. I can't believe the griping in some of the posts here.

Thanks for going through the trouble to take, edit and post them.

Herewegoagain, I'm saddened to read your comment about not doing them again. Everyone knows AOS4 is still in beta.

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What the video indicates most, is that we will need to tighthen our rules on videos showing off half working OS 4 installations as is the case here.


No, I have to disagree here, we need to show exactly what stage things are at and be honest about it. Personally I think this was the best presentation yet, well organised, we were taken through several aspects of the OS and where it's up to right now, bugs and all.

I don't think anyone is under the disillusion that this is anything other than a beta showing.

I have tried in all the videos I have released to show something different each time, this latest one is more or less raw footage of the event, which seemed to be what some people have been asking for. Each demo I attend (andof course film) shows something different each time, hopefully showing quite a balanced view.

Thye only thing that should be kept out of public events are anything of a confidential nature, that is simple to do, simply don't say anything that should not be said (or at least if someone slips up, to tell the person filming what parts are not for public consumption, I'd be more than happy to edit out anything of that nature)

I don't think anyone wants to show OS4 in a bad light, I certainly don't, I'm trying to promote a platform I want to see do well, and will do anything I can to raise awareness.

I can tell by the bandwidth used on the AmigaOneproductions website that people do really want to see everything they can regarding OS4 (This week : 2000 visitors taking a total of 27 Gigabytes)

The other way to do things of course is for me to make my videos available to a select few, i.e. Amiga Inc, Hyperion, Eyetech or whatever, for them to take a look at before releasing to the general public. If you think this is the way to go, please let me know and we can come to an agreement.

Your thoughts ?

 
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Re: AmigaOS4 demonstration videos
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@HyperionMP

I live for these OS4 demo videos.. it helps make the wait more bearable.

Yes it may have crashed a few times (I cant remember that happening) but my impression was that it looked quite fast.

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I can the the point from both sides here. While people are hungry to see the continual development of OS4, and actually being able to see it 'in the flesh' is essential to prove it is working, but I understand the comment from hyperionmp that it should be made clearer that this is a beta version and very much still a 'work in progress'. People not fully aware of the state of play may be given the wrong impression.

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Hyperionmp 
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I wasn't talking about keeping the true state of OS 4 under wraps, that would be plain deception.

I was complaining that on the latest video the machine was reset time and time again, creating the impression of a terribly unstable product which it is not.

Then you hear some commentary "it didn't do that for me at home" but it's unlikely that most people will have picked up on that.

Quite clearly, something was badly wrong with the set-up, the hardware or whatever and this was not made sufficiently clear.

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