To the guy that posted the article to Slashdot, thanks for another day of reading "Amiga is Dead" coments from every single slashdotter there. :)

Really, why did you bother. You know we're not welcome there...

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Linux users are the most anti Amiga ppl out there

Don't worry they are anti everything, like a certain ex OS4 betatester kicked out from the team due to that attitude some years ago. They just don't have a private life...

IMO many of the Slashdot vocals are against anything that may some day rival Linux. However next to some of the shout happy people there are also many readers with far more moderate viewpoints and don't take all the repetitive shouting all too seriously.

However Slashdot.org is read by so many people that when even only 1% of its readers would at some point be interested in the new Amiga platform, it can make a significant difference for our community. Personally I consider it a positive sign that Slashdot considers Amiga news important enough to cover.

Whenever the Amiga gets a spot on slashdot it always gets such a hostile response. I don't understand it, if Amiga is so dead etc as many slashdotters like to point out , why do they so get uptight and always seem on the defensive? Do they feel somehow threatened by our 'dead' platform?

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Don't shoot the bearer of the news, *I* didn't post it, just posted it to news

Actually, it's sort of ironic (and not entirely true) about Linux users. It seems there are very few 'original' Linux users on Slashdot that have anti-Amiga posts though. I've been using Linux since the distros we now now about even existed....and certainly don't have that opinion.

A lot of the 'Linux guys' (or girls) everywhere are pretty much just fanboys- I doubt any of them remember hacking X display modelines, or grabbing from Linus' postings to the mailing lists. Regardless, Linux went through the same thing for quite some time with people not seeing it as being 'serious,' let alone for commercial use and production systems. Some of us that have been around Linux since 'before it became famous' remember 'borrowing' old hardware to quietly replace mail servers, or to put under our desks at work and the like, and having to 'explain' it to more than a few people as well, at times including management.

I think many that came in to Linux 'late' are there because it's 'l33t' (ick!), and really have little idea, or even care, about not nescessailt how it started, but why and how it started to become 'a real OS and community.' Those that do remember, and were around for it, are likely to just easily dismiss alternate OSes, although they likely also will have the most intelligent statements about possible technical issues.

I don't think anyone is surprised by the comments on price, as let's face it, they're right for the most part. We're glad there's hardware, but I would bet $$ the uA1 is NOT the system, or the price, that Hyperion would have come up with (as an example) for a desktop board (and again, there's the argument that AOS is really NOT targetted at the desktop either, regardless of AW/net reader's wishes etc), but it's what's there and what we've got, and while a bit $, it isn't terrible by any means....but no one sane can expect even all of the AW.net members to not gripe about some of the specs or cost.

If there's something inherently wrong/confused about some people's posts, then correct them, preferably in a non-flaming way. The fact that AOS/AOne is getting ANY publicity, let alone from Ars and /., is a good thing, regardless of the comments. Look at it this way- out of every 100 /. posts, there are 900 people who have read it, but not posted. Some of them have found this very site, and are 'deciding for themselves.' Some will become curious, and may wait to see if a 'better' option materializes, like some of the AW.net members themselves do. Some will go ahead and order a uA1. Others will come back in 6 months 'to see how things are progressing.' That's _still_ good publicity either way.

Myself, I'd love to know the jump in stats for AW.net over the past few days

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I dont know about amigaworld but over the past 2 days intuitionbase has seen a tripple fold increase in the number of hits and page views, almost quadrupple on pageviews..

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Linux users are the most anti Amiga ppl out there

Slashdot's typical stance is

Amiga -> Dead
Windows -> Bad
MacOS -> Cool
Linux -> The best since sliced bread

The display of arrogance is typical. The fact that some people might be using their system for the sheer fun of it doesn't seem to enter their mind.

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No, only those that post on slashdot...

Arrogant bunch, most of them.

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don't understand it, if Amiga is so dead etc as many slashdotters like to point out , why do they so get uptight and always seem on the defensive?

This is because compared to Windows, everything else is dead, even Linux. Unfortunately, those slashdot guys don't see that, and think the rest of the world are idiots... Some are idiots because they are Windows users, and some others because they are Amiga users... But if you're some leet slashdot Linux guy, you're cool.

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i can just say 1 thing... as soon as i saw this news item i said to myself and others "os4 slashdotted" ...to me that means (and surely the rest of u lot thats been around for a while) ... hacked and slashed into pieces by linux fanatics.

i havent even read the stuff on there yet...but i know from experience that its just another ann.lu , people thinks its fun to say #### about everything that doesnt target them.

I couldnt care less tbh , every sane user around who visits and see thoose comments (how bad or good they really are) will atleast make them check atleast 1 more thread there and notice the same futile/welcome stuff.

i'd say stuff it and lets move on, and think of it as "we got mentioned" and that is "important".

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I dont understand it either, considering that the linux userbase was even smaller than the current amiga userbase just some years ago. I guess they dont recall that linux started out as a small hobby project.

Alot of the posters dont even seem to have used a Amiga themself, but still they post and bash a OS/platform that they dont know anything about.

Ah, /. ers. Last bastion of the unwashed (and I do mean unwashed) linux geeks now that newsgroups have lost all cohesion and/or relevancy. It's fun to poke them with a stick:
/.er: "Linux is ready for the home desktop NOW!"
Me: "Really? So I could give a Linux distro CD to my dad and he could install it on his system and be up and running as quick as he was with WinXP?"
/.er: "Of course! He just needs to know what USB controller chipset, sound card and video card he has."
Me: "And if he doesn't?"
/.er: "... uh. ... uh ... STUPID PEOPLE SHOULDN'T USE COMPUTERS! LIN-UX LIN-UX LIN-UX! WOOT WOOT WOOT WOOT NOW WATCH AS I RECOMPILE MY KERNEL HUGLAGHAGLHUHGHGLHL"

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Well wegster, the good news is that Jeremy's article has
travelled well. The word is getting out that there is new
hardware for the Amiga and a new OS.

Linux users and their comments leave me cold at the best
of times. I did the distro dance, I wasn't all that
impressed nor did I like what happened to my Amiga when
I put Debian on it, though that is my favourite distro.

What I would like to see in short order is another set
of Geek Gadgets ported over from some flavour of PPC
linux.

I wonder what is going to happen when projects like
Jeremy's tablet come to fruition or the Dragon hits
the streets followed or preceded by Adam K's PPC
card. Dare we dream of a laptop/luggable?

For now, I am with Jeremy on the view that my little
µA1 dune buggy tumbles and rolls as well as making
some awesome jumps.

...you actually believe the hundreds of thousands of Amigans all
self-lobotomized, and became mind-numbed windoze robots? They
are out there, in droves, a few loud-mouths not withstanding, and
while quietly observing the progress of OS4, will let there money speak
when the G4/5 are finally in the shops.

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...you actually believe the hundreds of thousands of Amigans all self-lobotomized, and became mind-numbed windoze robots? They are out there, in droves, a few loud-mouths not withstanding, and while quietly observing the progress of OS4, will let there money speak when the G4/5 are finally in the shops.

...and then we have a few Amiga users who tend to act that way as well.

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http://amigaworld.net/webstat/usage_200501.html

@Ryu/Dave- thanks. it looks like AW.net hits have gone up ~25% or a bit more over the past couple of days, not too surprisingly. Good thing the review itself wasn't hosted here....although with /. , of course you've got to wondfer how many posters actually _read_ the article on Ars before commenting ..

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