Very nice..again quality apps from AmigaOS get to Win :)

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Is the IDE going to be available also for Amiga?

Or is the IDE a kind of "Hollywood Designer" for Windows?

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Congratulations with this release! :) I hope you get even more customers this way!

Torgeir :)

I hope it will bring a lot more users to Hollywood.

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Spread it like a virus on all platforms :)

Great !

But.... I predict the end of the Amiga version of Hollywood. Just like all the other programs that got a Windows version along side the Amiga version....

edit: ok, so Pagestream is an exeption...

Mark my words.

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ahh yeah that is true..but maybe this is not Hollywood story ?!

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Imho the story of Hollywood it's reality: Give to any user who do not have amigaos and amiga like oses possible to create amiga programms. Imho that is very nice step, because many of the ppls who in interest about amiga, for now does not have that. Also better write programm over windows, because of easy usability such as MP, TaskManager (for kill bad programm) and so on. And later, just test it on amigaos/morphos or whatever.

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@ Metalheart

I do not think you should worry about that - remember that Andreas is also the author of Designer. Since the Designer-gui is MUI-based I really doubt it will ever be ported to Windows. So Hollywood on Amiga will live on for sure!

Im confident that Airsoft Softwair will not stop supporting AmigaOS :)

Torgeir

Well, I AM worried !

Dopus Magelan, Lightwave, what was that music tracker programs name ?, and there are more...

Again, why would anyone in their right minds still support a platform with 1000s of users when they can support a platform with a gazilion users, faster hardware, more OS options like the taskmanager mentioned above, realtime video recording, and so on.

And who (exept us Amiga fanatics) would want to run Hollywood on an Amiga when the've got a WinPC next to it ?

Did I mention the IDE for Windows-Hollywood ?

Not to be negative about this, but Amiga again loses one AOS-only-killer-app.

btw, who wants to make a bet on Designer appearing on Windows ?

Sigh.

Good for Andreas and Windows users though !

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Good news for Hollywood. Great that cross compiling is built in. I wonder what Windows has that enables it to have an IDE? Does it have extra dev tools or 3rd party support for easily building an IDE that AmigaOS4 doesn't have?

@Metal heart,

Partly in agreeance there.

I however also find it slightly annoying, how so many users or existing developers looked SOLELY on the money side of things, RATHER than the OS'es.

He already had Linux, Mac, and Amiga, Morph, so I suppose not enough advertisement or word of mouth was happening between these platforms perhaps to warrant a nice healthy income for the guy, but er, wasnt Hollywood not his job, but a hobby anyway?

If hobby or an after hours thing, then why the hell has he decided to support windows to begin with?

SOmething doesnt feel coacher about this at all.

Cheers

P.S. ALSO, werent windoze users able to use an emulator to use Hollywood to begin with, again, just doesnt make sense to me for the Sudden change of heart his had.

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@Metalheart
yep, Amiga looses an "Amiga only Killer App".
Hope Designer stays "Amiga only". Which would be a compromise, because "Cross Developing" or lets say "Cross Coding" is widely accepted, and an Media Progamming IDE/Language is not an app. isn't it ?

I think Designer is a Killer App (using Hollywood), seen from User point of view (!). Hope Designer stays AOS only !!!

Anyway Hollywood is still great, and for Hollywood it is an advantage. On the other hand we might see some more apps on Amiga done by windows programmers....

BTW I like the Amiga Icons in HW IDE for Windows !!!!

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Not surprised (although a little saddened) by this, as I was expecting it since Hollywood was able to produce Windows executables. But I guess that's commercial reality - Windows is the only market that can really support continued commercial development of something this complex.

I hope people are wrong about this being the beginning of the end for Amiga support. Guess we'll have to wait for Hollywood 5 or 6 to find out. (You can imagine that they'd implement next version of Hollywood for Windows first, with Amiga/etc done afterwards. Then the thought might arise, "why bother" when we make so few sales... And so at some point they don't bother...)

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I Hope that it gives to Andreas really MUCH customers so he can improve Hollywood more and more!
With a good income...

GOOD WORK!

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Very good interesting options more when with this new feature of work in Windows also it allowes testing best the windows versions of our Amiga versions, besides to work in the cases spoken.

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Guess we'll have to wait for Hollywood 5 or 6 to find out. (You can imagine that they'd implement next version of Hollywood for Windows first, with Amiga/etc done afterwards. Then the thought might arise, "why bother" when we make so few sales... And so at some point they don't bother...)

Excactly what I meant to say !

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The Windows version of Hollywood is perfect for users who need to work with Hollywood in places where they don't have access to their Amiga system

In other words: 'Why use an Amiga at all ? When you can use a laptop PC!'

I love it when they make it sound like it is a 'good thing' for Amiga users

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Best decision imo. It is much better and pleasant to run any app on modern fast and reliable hardware than the opposite.

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Just a question for the whiners:

Is it best to have a nice development tool working on a few users' machines that can produce executables for a much much much more larger userbase, or to have the same nice development tool working on that much much much more larger userbase, that can produce applications also for these few users' machines?

I vote for the 2nd. I prefer thinking about a greater number of potential coders that can produce much more programs that can easily compile and work ALSO for AROS, AmigaOS and company, than the opposite.

@ paolone 

Thanks for calling me a whiner.....

You are talking about apps produced by Hollywood that can run on many platforms.
I'm talking about the program Hollywood itself, that creates those apps, wich many of us like to use and gives Amiga sort of an 'edge' as oposed to other platforms.

The advantage of having that killer app only for Amiga might disapear. (speculative, but based on past experiences in similar situations)
Also there might come a time when Amiga is not at all supported by Hollywood, but that is ofcourse also speculative.

Again, dont ever call me a whiner !!

Martin

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