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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:13:10
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:13:19
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Not at all, for a tiny system, it's fairly high end hardware which makes it rather nice as the first Commodore Amiga in twenty years. I am happy they went with a really nice quad core (i7 2600K) and left the low end dual core for the VIC-Mini. |
i was referring more to the price, lack of innovation, and a corporate addiction to photoshopping publicly-available images.
that said, i would agree that it is nice that if they are going to do this to the brand, at least they're using top-shelf hardware. well, except for the GPU.
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:13:53
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:17:39
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I like the case, seems it is available on ebay. What do you think how much would those engravements cost ? Would be nice to put my SAM440 mini in it. |
I'm sure the original case is on EBay, but the customized case that is the official Commodore Amiga Mini is not on ebay nor does the original case come with COS-V with licensed Amiga and C64 software nor the blue ray drive that the Commodore Amiga Mini barebones comes with. _________________ Dammy
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:18:04
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I like the case, seems it is available on ebay. What do you think how much would those engravements cost ? Would be nice to put my SAM440 mini in it. |
it depends. resellers like directron will do laser engraving of aluminum casing like this for $20. depending on the material and size of the design you want, it can more or less, but for this it won't cost you more than $50 with any reputable engraving firm.
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:19:20
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:19:43
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:19:54
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| Eliyahu - Thanks for the Ebay link to the same case as the Amiga Mini is using, selling for $65 - Well spotted.
The x86 hardware spec is ok for a PC running Linux or Windows 7, but seriously, why do they call this an Amiga? It just isn't. |
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:21:18
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I'm sure the original case is on EBay, but the customized case that is the official Commodore Amiga Mini is not on ebay nor does the original case come with COS-V with licensed Amiga and C64 software nor the blue ray drive that the Commodore Amiga Mini barebones comes with. |
fair enough. then again 'COS-V' is freely available -- and without the gaudy garnish -- as linux mint. and a blu-ray drive to fit the case can be had for between $50 and $60 retail. but it is fair to point that out. i didn't realize it came with the drive.
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:26:32
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that said, i would agree that it is nice that if they are going to do this to the brand, at least they're using top-shelf hardware. well, except for the GPU. |
GPU is onboard with it's own RAM, there isn't much out in the mini-ITX field that has a higher end nVidia GPU. I am waiting on the details on the upcoming Commodore Amiga 1000X if will be sporting a nVidia gfx card or will have onboard nVidia GPU. I am hoping it'll be with a GT 560 or higher end.
End of the day, I'm happy to see a new Commodore Amiga being released. _________________ Dammy
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:27:48
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:29:57
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| edit: made no sense anymore :D Last edited by terminills on 22-Mar-2012 at 01:03 AM.
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:30:04
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| ZOTAC Z67ITX-B-E Mini-ITX Motherboard? (Ebay, BIN) - $250 Intel Core i7 2600K (Ebay, BIN) - $350 16GB Corsair DDR3-1333 Ram (2x8GB 204-pin SODIMM) (Ebay, BIN)- $150 1TB SATA Drive (Ebay, BIN) - $150 Sony Slot load blu-ray drive (Ebay, BIN) - $100 (Prices found on Ebay without trying very hard to look for bargains) Commodore Amiga 'mini' case (CUSA, Preorder) - $345
That gives ~$1350 USD (retail) for the parts.
(Joke, I'm not trying to steal your business...) If anyone wants one, PM me - I'll do one for you for $1750. That's $750 cheaper than CUSA, although it'd be Linux Mint rather than CommodoreOS installed.
Seriously though, that markup is obscene. _________________ Troll - n., A disenfranchised former potential customer who remains interested enough to stay informed and express critical opinions. opp., the vast majority who voted silently with their feet.
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:34:20
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$3000+ price tag says hi. |
just because its a high amount does not mean their getting a profit on it. Putting together off the shelf components and charging alot is a way to get profit.
Making a motherboard from scatch, and obtaining funding to have a production line is a much more viable reason to have a high price than just greed. _________________ Cross-developer on Windows, OS3, OS4, Linux; Current Projects:- Nephele Cloud App OS4 UserProfile System OS4 AmigaOneXE OS4.1.6
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:35:46
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Poster: Boot_WB Date: 21-Mar-2012 14:30:04
ZOTAC Z67ITX-B-E Mini-ITX Motherboard? (Ebay, BIN) - $250 Intel Core i7 2600K (Ebay, BIN) - $350 16GB Corsair DDR3-1333 Ram (2x8GB 204-pin SODIMM) (Ebay, BIN)- $150 1TB SATA Drive (Ebay, BIN) - $150 Sony Slot load blu-ray drive (Ebay, BIN) - $100 (Prices found on Ebay without trying very hard to look for bargains) Commodore Amiga 'mini' case (CUSA, Preorder) - $345
That gives ~$1350 USD (retail) for the parts.
(Joke, I'm not trying to steal your business...) If anyone wants one, PM me - I'll do one for you for $1750. That's $750 cheaper than CUSA, although it'd be Linux Mint rather than CommodoreOS installed.
Seriously though, that markup is obscene. |
Just noticed your previous posting, stating that the BD is included with the barebones case.
So that's ~$1250 for parts. Retail.
I'll see my previous 'obscene' and raise me a 'repugnant'. _________________ Troll - n., A disenfranchised former potential customer who remains interested enough to stay informed and express critical opinions. opp., the vast majority who voted silently with their feet.
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:37:28
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Making a motherboard from scatch, and obtaining funding to have a production line is a much more viable reason to have a high price than just greed. |
Awesome that means I can build a custom X86 board and it will be worth $1500 w00t ;DLast edited by terminills on 21-Mar-2012 at 02:39 PM.
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:40:09
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:43:09
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:45:35
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| Sure, if it cost you $1500 to make it then yes Id pay that.
it seems you may not understand any production costs of making a small scale production batch of any type of circuitry, let alone a multi-layer pcb, using cpu which is used in mainly areas which have unlimited finance's (military) having a thorough Quality assurance procedure, which means the company will loose money if problems occur.
A-Eon is working with a high risk items while working on a shoe string, yet CUSA uses off the shelf products(low risk) and aiming to reap in the profits. Last edited by TheAMIgaOne on 21-Mar-2012 at 02:47 PM.
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Re: Commodore Amiga Mini Pre Order Has Begun Posted on 21-Mar-2012 14:48:53
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| are you sure this is a new motherboard built for this "mini amiga" and not a Chinese MoBo that costs 30$ (except cpu)?? Why someone should design and produce an x86 motherboard if there are a lot of cheaper alternative all around the world?? _________________ http://www.amigasoft.net
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