@number6

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Please tell me you were being sarcastic...

don't worry. he was.

-- eliyahu

Little complex but im happy we will get drivers for more modern gfx cards.

What about the on-board drivers for 7.1 HDAudio, Gigabit Ethernet and SATA 2 on the Nemo motherboard? I would really like to know how far their progress is till now.

Last edited by Phantom on 24-Jun-2012 at 06:40 PM.

I really cannot understand a lot of the fuss over the cost of this driver. This is no different to Picasso96 and CGX both of which were charged separately and by revision (so you bought CGX, CGX2, CGX3, CGX4) and both of which were required by various graphics cards to work. I recall paying around £35-40 for my CGX v4 CD, so £28 isn't much at all (given inflation and economic costs increasing over the years).

Considering A-EON have funded the driver for use with their hardware, surely SAM owners should be asking ACube about licensing the driver for their machines from A-EON, as ACube were responsible for making the SAM and A-EON are responsible for the A1X1000 (and therefore customers of that machine only).

Just because SAM, AmigaOne SE/XE and AmigaOne X1000 all use OS4, it doesn't mean that a third party driver developed by one of the hardware vendors of these machines should then give the driver to everyone for free.

This isn't like the x86 world where the GPU manufacturer is responsible for making the driver to their card.

When did the Amiga community become such a bunch of whingers? It seems the Mac/PC markets and the internet making things "available" have spoilt people and made them expect everything for almost next to nothing.

This announcement represents a big step forward for the NG Amiga users, and I commend A-EON for funding this and for offering it to other NG Amiga users for a reasonable cost.

@ Phantom

The fact that Trevor was playing around with dual Graphics cards,Second one being a pci Radeon 9250, Should tell you that things have probably moved forwards here too.


http://blog.a-eon.biz/blog/

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Of course I believe that things have probably moved on, but it's good to hear an update.

@_Steve_

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surely SAM owners should be asking ACube about licensing the driver for their machines from A-EON, as ACube were responsible for making the SAM

I wouldn't be surprised when ACube bundles with HD cards will come with this drivers, the price for already calculated into the package. More or less the same game played with the 460ex sound driver, which was AFAIK contracted by *ACube* (and *not* Hyperion).

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This announcement represents a big step forward for the NG Amiga users

Agreed. These drivers really set AmigaOS ahead in terms of development. Lets focus on the positivity of this.

@ cha05e90

A fact of life.
The users pay the cost. Regardles of how payment is structured.

@cha05e90 

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More or less the same game played with the 460ex sound driver, which was AFAIK contracted by *ACube* (and *not* Hyperion).

From the news article:

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Anyway we are happy to inform you that Ross Vumbaca in association with ACube Systems, has released an initial version of the SAM460 audio driver to the OS4 beta testing team.

#6

@#6

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Ross Vumbaca in association with ACube Systems

...and the the driver is - of course - free of charge for AmigaOne 500/Sam460ex users. And if someone might have the very strange idea and assembles a "SM502 sound card" for the X1000 (or Pegasos II or Eyetech AmigaOne's) , I'll be sure ACube will sell their driver happily to all X1000 sm502 sound card users...

Im rather impressed with the drive A-Eon is showing.

Support for cheap high volume third party hardware is important.

Paying for drivers? The alternative is having no drives, and considering how
important 2d/3d card support is the cost is rather insignificant.

Hope A-EON and associates can keep the energy to develop their platform
going :)

@Tuxedo

You should buy a PC and stop crying like a child that wants the ball of the other boy. It's pathetic and annoying.

@elwood

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You should buy a PC and stop crying like a child that wants the ball of the other boy. It's pathetic and annoying.

don't you think you're being a bit harsh, here? certainly if the driver becomes commercialized through A-EON, that's one thing. but if no further bug fixes will be provided to acube customers without purchasing a subscription from A-EON, that's quite another.

by the way it would be nice if acube could clarify the situation for its customers. amigakit's approach -- bundling the 'new' driver with the radeonHD cards it offers -- seems the best way to go for new customers. but for existing ones, i think this approach just surprised SAM460 owners who purchased their systems with the understanding that they would receive a final version of the radeonHD driver.

@Hans / @TrevorDick

thanks for the development work so far, guys. i'm looking forward to seeing what's possible in the coming months. i hope someone can bring one of the newer high-end cards and an X1000 and demo at amiwest this year.

-- eliyahu

@Elwood

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@Tuxedo You should buy a PC and stop crying like a child that wants the ball of the other boy. It's pathetic and annoying.

Isn't that a bit harsh? He's suffered yet contributed to testing threads for 9 years mostly whilst owning an "SE".
He's really "pathetic and annoying"? He should buy a PC and leave because after all that devotion to the platform he dared make a comment about his expectations?

@eliyahu

hmmm...seems this struck us the same way.

#6

Last edited by number6 on 24-Jun-2012 at 07:41 PM.

I had a Pegasos 2 with OS4.1 once upon a time, I had an older Radeon in it and could run 1920x1200 etc fine. It even ran Q3!

If I had it still and added these drivers, I could get a more modern GFX board, but what would the difference in the OS be besides Q3 maybe running smother?

Could you for example run 2560x1600 resolution?

Ok, i want to ask a question.

What are the big differences between a radeon 7500 64MB and the latest radeon cards.

I don't see the problem.

The only functionality that newer driver offers over 0.32 is support for newer video cards than the 4000 series. Owners that already have a 4650 don't need the newer driver and new customers can easily purchase a 4650 from AmigaKit, Acube or any other dealer so there isn't a need for them to pay for the newer drivers there either.

The only people who would need to pay if they wanted to use the RadeonHD driver would be owners of AmigaONE and Sam440 hardware.

Excellent news, thanks to all involved in making this happen.

So us first contact user, will we get an email or something, or do I just click the order?

I can understand some question paying for drives, but I think the work gone into this to improve the whole os4 drive situation is worth it.

My initial thought on this whole announcement is:

As an AmigaKit/ACube/SAM460EX/Radeon4650 customer, why do I have to pay to subsidise A-EON's customers at $45 USD? It would seem that the ACube owners are paying the full brunt of the cost for the benefit of A-EON customers! $45!!!

Like others, I'm really happy for this inititive! But why do ACube customers have to pay such a large fee just because Trevor made an exclusive deal with Hans?

It wouldn't be so bad if ACube supported it's customers with a small fee for the final 4650 driver (the work was obviously completed before Trevor shelled out his money) but Trevor now owns exclusive rights to the OS4/Radeon drivers!

ACube/AEON need to give 4650 owners what was promised to them.

Nothing personal Trevor but this reeks of "just another corporate takeover" where everyone pays except those willing to buy an X1000.

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