If anyone is interested:

1,366.00 GBP = 2,216.39 USD
1,707.50 GBP = 2,770.44 USD

At least it equals that right now at http://www.xe.com/

Last edited by Moxee on 22-Nov-2013 at 10:42 PM.

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I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

Nice! However, still too much expensive for me.

@pavlor

I understand. I saved up a long time for mine and when it was delayed I spent my savings on something else. Then I got jealous of others and went ahead and ordered it last year. I am glad I did. I think it is worth it.

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I'd agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong.

[Long-time lurker pipes up... ]

***HOLY HUCKING HOCK***, that's a lot of money!

*Plus* VAT!

I'd LOVE to get back into the Amiga, but... no.

Here's hoping someone might eventually get back to the planned 'netbook' level of investment -- at most!

(Or -- wait for it -- use sensible hardware!)

BTW What was the actual outcome of that recent Arix countdown? I spent 30 days imagining something really cool was coming, only to find... absolutely nothing was coming!

That whole thing was even less impressive than ANYTHING Bill McEwen ever dangled in front of us... and that's going all the way back to Gateway 2000 (when I last bought CU Amiga in Asda!).

[Goes back to long-time lurking, cursing Windows, Linux, etc, etc, etc... ]

BTW Surely it would be possible for someone to create an x86 or even ARM-based accelerator board running 68K emulation as a dirt-cheap A1200 plug-in? Why wouldn't that work? Always wondered! Answers on a postcard...

The X1000 is meant for people wanting the absolute fastest new OS4 machine possible. If you want to get back into the Amiga scene, get a second hand Sam as they're lovely machines that work well and aren't expensive. It's like saying you can't get a PC because the top of the range Alienware laptop is expensive.

You can't make a dirt cheap ARM or X86 accelerator because development costs would be huge even if production costs weren't, and it wouldn't work anyway because they're both little-endian.

Seriously, though.... get a Sam. if you want to run OS4. It really is worth taking the plunge if you like AmigaOS and you can resell if you don't like it for basically the same price!

@Spirantho
It's would be like saying in 1990 you can't get into the Amiga because the A4000 is so expensive (totally ignoring the A1200).

I do find it puzzling that some people seem to think the X1000 is the *only* AmigaOS4 machine you can buy.

ACube's Sam460 is quite a nice machine by all accounts (when fitted with a gfx-card & some kind of SATA card), and a hell of a lot cheaper than the X1000.

Last edited by ChrisH on 23-Nov-2013 at 08:32 AM.

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Even the Sam is expensive for its spec. We need to be in £500 for a complete system for me to even think about. At the moment it's to much for to little.. Don't get me wrong what has been archived is fantastic but we really do need the A500 model to be affordable . commodore did not do to well with Amiga until the A500 came out then ever kid at school wanted one for Christmas. No parent is going to spend 1500 plus one Christmas present unless they have just won the lotto

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You have to forget about specs, though - this not only isn't the same league as PC specs, it's a whole different ball-game (and luckily we don't need multi-GHz machines just to run the OS). A 600Mhz Sam 440ep can make a really nice little OS4 machine.
The Sam is expensive for a low-end, board, yes - but that's just the reality of having new hardware. Nobody likes the high prices (especially not Acube or A-Eon) but there just aren't the economies of scale available to make the prices lower.

You can get second hand Sam 440s fairly easily, I believe, at very reasonable prices - and you should be able to get one for £500 without too much trouble. Not selling mine though. :)

I thought that was a great price until I read it was ex-VAT!!! Still over £2,000 Oh well hopefully the new 'Cyrus' models will break the £2,000 barrier and be more cost effective. Might have been worth it if the SMP function in OS4.x was already enabled with a good graphics/Video editing package.

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What's with all Linux stuff why pay thousands for x1000 to run Linux when a normal PC can run it. Whole idea having hardware is to run Amiga os.

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Or buy a 440 Flex which is cheaper (starting from 270€) and - for now - better supported than the 460: SAM Motherboards

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Or buy a 440 Flex which is cheaper (starting from 270€)

You have to add memory, OS 4.1 and VAT = €548 (including Italian 21% VAT).

I don't know if they forgot to update the webshop, because I'd need to create an account to get the full price, but starting from October Italian VAT rose to 22%...

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@Spirantho

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and luckily we don't need multi-GHz machines just to run the OS

Here we go again The OS does not need CPU but the 2013 Programs of TODAY do !

The playstation 4 has 10 CPUs ! (which i ordered)

Games need AI, waypoint algorithms, battle tactic search destroy algorithms , etc.

Just a simple app like C/C++ editor requires cpu processing for predictive text more powerful than is available in a SAM 440 !

Developers dont want to wait compiling their code all day long, EA/software companies are using 100+ compile/render farms in cloud.

NO Game will be ported if it cannot handle processing power required.

Give us all the CPU power we can get, someone will make use of it. Slow CPU only limits the creative freedom of a developer to create better apps and games.

hopefully we can get CPUs higher than 2.5 DMIPS/mhz.

see the future of gaming and power of PS4 - ps4 camera
near the end of the video, the camera capture/ 3d space algos, 2 way communications require multi core cpu in GHz for processing.

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Last edited by Kicko on 23-Nov-2013 at 07:28 PM.

I would be interested in A1X600 that has:
-1...1.5Ghz CPU (single or dualcore, or better)
-2GB DDR2/3 (64bit single, dual or triple channel)
-single PCIe slot 1...4x speed (2.0) for GPU with 1GB RAM
-xorro+PCIe x1 combo port not mandatory, but second PCIe nice to have
-USB2.0 (or 3.0) 4e+2i ports
-2x SATAII ports
-1GB or 10GB ethernet
-RadeonHD
-Audio via RadeonHD
-eur1000 for full system

A lot of people might consider trying AOS4 system that has:
-1...1.5Ghz CPU (single or dualcore, or better)
-500MB...1GB DDR2 (32 or 64bit)
-single PCIe slot 1...4x speed (2.0) for GPU with 1GB RAM
-USB2.0 2ext ports
-1x SATAII
-1GB ethernet
-RadeonHD
-Audio via RadeonHD
-eur500 for full system

Last edited by KimmoK on 24-Nov-2013 at 02:56 PM.

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If anyone is interested: 1,366.00 GBP = 2,216.39 USD 1,707.50 GBP = 2,770.44 USD

actually amigakit has even better prices in USD than you get when you do the currency conversions. a complete X1000 system is only $2,646.62 (link) or you can get the motherboard alone for $2,117.47! these are the best prices seen yet for an X1000, so if folks are interested in getting one for themselves this christmas, now's the time while the current batch is in stock.



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Once again European people are screwed up since the complete system costs 1958 Euros for an American and 2500 Euros for an European !!!

As we can read everywhere : WTF ????

Last edited by K-L on 24-Nov-2013 at 07:23 AM.

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