@pavlor

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What last OS4 version you used for more than 1 hour?

a version not that different from a current one judging by the list of features added by subsequent upgrades.

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As for Amiga-like OSs - my Amiga time is shared between OS4, OS3 and AROS. OS4 gets greatest share, AROS least.

that probablz corresponds to thr time one needs get something achieved under os4 versus aros, even if under uae. ;)

@wawa

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a version not that different from a current one judging by the list of features added by subsequent upgrades.

Please could you tell us which version you used ?

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@OlafS25

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it should be the opposite

First off, I'm an os4 user only & I've never used morphos or aros.
I chat every day with other amiga users in IRC who do use all 3 systems. The few who use aros are always saying how unstable aros is to date. There are others who have tried aros & said the same thing. As I.ve never tried it, I can't judge for myself, but it does make me glad I never wasted my time with it. I would imagine others base their feelings for morphos & os4 the same way, by what they believe what others say. Not putting down mosphos or aros, just saying after years of use, I love os4 & if you love aros, good for you.

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@Trewq

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Trewq wrote: @wawa Quote: a version not that different from a current one judging by the list of features added by subsequent upgrades. Please could you tell us which version you used ?

The AROS SS does NOT answer questions. They only DEMAND obedience.

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@Trewq

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Please could you tell us which version you used ?

My guess is 4.1 update 6, him being a non-os4 user wouldn't know what improvments FE brings to us.

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@sundown

I doubt if he got past 4.0

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@sundown

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sundown wrote: @OlafS25 Quote: it should be the opposite First off, I'm an os4 user only & I've never used morphos or aros. I chat every day with other amiga users in IRC who do use all 3 systems. The few who use aros are always saying how unstable aros is to date. ...........

Now, now,,,,, aros is just great for taking care of those nasty Windows bugs. As you install it, it completely removes all problems,,,,, including windows.

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@sundown

AROS has some strong points in comparison to OS4 or MorphOS:

Powerful and cheap hardware
Full MS Office97 compatibility (DosBox/Win95 )


Stability is not that bad (AROS x86) - yes some applications have problems, but same can I say also about OS3 or OS4. It is definitely worth a try - you may use some virtualisation software, if you aren´t brave enough to run it natively on your computer. There are preconfigured distributions like Icaros desktop with plenty of software.

@All

I see that after I got temporarily suspended from this thread, nothing really changed, still "all" versus OS4 and almost off topic only

And I guess some are missing the real entertainment between me and cdimauro ... Just kidding

Back on topic guys

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@broadblues

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I doubt if he got past 4.0

you are correct. so care to tell me what i would gain if i did?

@sundown

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My guess is 4.1 update 6, him being a non-os4 user wouldn't know what improvments FE brings to us.

lemme guess: tabbed shell!

@wawa

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lemme guess: tabbed shell!

LOL, lot more to FE then the feature list. Why do non users alway think they know better then real users?

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@wawa

Compositing (transparency effects, drop shadows, fading)
WB/Intuition/Misc improvements: Notifications, DDC, AppDir, Startup Prefs
VMM Paging
USB2.0
AmiUpdate
New FileSystem API

and contributions:
MUI4
NTFS
RunInUAE

To name few.


What I like most:
1) Rich configuration options (AROS looks like 20 years old OS in comparison!)
2) Small but visible improvements (eg. directory listviews by name/fate etc. in WB are useable - unlike on OS3 or even 4.0; AppInfo commodity )
3) AmiUpdate
4) Compatibility (eg. I use MysticView for viewing images - 68k application using native libraries for rendering and datatypes)
5) AmiDock
6) Application.library
7) AppDir (easy to find application I´m looking for )

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@sundown

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LOL, lot more to FE then the feature list. Why do non users alway think they know better then real users?

sounds like there is some metaphysical quality to this that doesnt translate to our dimensios and cant be described in a feature list ;)

@pavlor

thx, i could go into detail on what you mention, but all in all i hardly see anything essential for the end user that would justify an investment in another subversion. actually only usb2 stack come close to being a candidate, if it would work reliably, which reading the forums, it isnt till today. but it doesnt matter for winuae, since it is providing transparent wrapper to the host system for what one mostly needs usb for. so no issue.

edit: which leads me to a question: is the usb stack coder still around? is that expectable, that these apparentlzy since years standing issues are ever going to be fixed, given that os4 somehow avoids abandonment in consequence of the company liquidation?

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So should I buy FinalEdition for XE? Third or fourth in my counts.

Is the new comming working too with this dinosaur A1?

(4,1 update6 atm) Waiting if good OWB or some comes, then buy Ppaint as it didn't work. The Net with OWB. There is a problem that should be corrected quickly or maybe just my One. Then the printer...

Waiting for news and then put the money where usable.

I think the Commodore machines are the best;)

@Thread

50 pages!!! Yawn!!! Do we know what's going on yet? This saga is as bad as the new season of Formula 1. Sauber hiring 3 drivers, McLaren running with an elastic band and Red Bull blowing up an engine already, but hey at least they got tons of money and the world actually gives a monkeys about whether F1 lives or dies. I doubt many national Belgian newspapers would mourn Hyperion's passing if indeed that's what has happened. Still waiting for the Belgian legal system to pull its finger out Oh well back to F1 2013 on the PS3 when cars had engines and not poxy power trains

How about we lock this thread now and use this one instead?

The Hyperion Bankruptcy: Decision at the End of the Month

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@sundown

AROS are a lot of different platforms, most people saying AROS mean AROS X86 like Icaros Desktop. I personal use my distribution based on Aros 68k using UAE beating almost all AmigaOS hardware except X1000 by raw speed. Much if not most of the amiga software is running on it so I do not see anything AmigaOS gives me except needing lots of money to buy the hardware. But everyone his own.

@OlafS25

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I do not see anything AmigaOS gives me except needing lots of money to buy the hardware.

Yawn So if topic it's not even funny, Hyperion do not develop AROS or Icaros Desktop so what's that got to do with Hyperion's bankruptcy? Here's an idea comment on this thread actually about Hyperion's bankruptcy:

The Hyperion Bankruptcy: Decision at the End of the Month

...or even better start a new thread about why the concept of buying new Amiga hardware chills you to the bone

Whatever you do please acknowledge that this thread is DEAD and move on.

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@pavlor

one point: " Rich configuration options (AROS looks like 20 years old OS in comparison!)"

if you are reluctant to use a modern desktop (if I remember right you were not wanting to use Magellan) then it is your problem, not the problem of AROS

Other than that I have some experience with desktop configuration, then you you can explain me where AROS is looking 20 years old and I would love to have some proofs.

"directory listviews by name/fate etc. in WB are useable"

small part of Magellan. We can continue with going more in detail like how configurable are file types and shortcuts and so on. You mix AROS with its limited original desktop but AROS is a opensource implementation of the 3.1. API.