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Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 11:15:54
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You're so naivė, there are things that rule above manners.. I would be thinking of money, and business oportunity for once... but these are things that aren't usually linked to Amiga Inc...

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Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.
Posted on 20-Sep-2006 11:45:06
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Well, they should. Frankly, we have exposed enough here in this thread to keep us from wasting too much money and time until we have a serious and detailed response. It is surprising to us that you don't see the efficiency of this approach.

@all

Here is another thought. Amiga is far from being a commercial entity of any sort. Genesi's judgment against Amiga Inc. notwithstanding (that means set this aside, forget it, and pretend it never happened), Amiga Inc. wherever it is domiciled has serious problems (details omitted because highlighting the problems of Amiga Inc. is not the point). At the very least as we have learned here, the future they forecast depends on Hyperion, which depends on two developers who have worked very hard to create something great and have not been paid - and are not playing without being compensated. Unless someone has a rich Uncle, you are all stuck in this situation together.

Frankly, we have the same problem with MorphOS. Many people have continued to work hard, toiling away at creating a useful, solid, and potentially revolutionary product. The problem is the same. We stopped paying for MorphOS development in 2003, because we had no money left to do it and unfortunately there was no return to support it. Perhaps, if we had started out with something beside the Articia things might have been different. From that point forward:

1. Genesi has not had the resources to support the development. In other words, Genesi has not had the extra money to invest. If we had the money we would have!

2. The OS itself does not drive revenue commensurate with the financial needs of the development team - much less developer wants! NOTE: that is until now, which is why we are trying to find a solution to an opportunity we have.

We wish it was not so. In the immediate post-CBM world success was still possible. Phase V lasted a few years, Felix Schwarz (Iospirit) lasted many more doing Amiga things (that talented developer has move on to other things). He did that in Germany, the strongest market there was for CBM products. Of course, the champ is Michael Battilana. He is our hero. He has done a great job for many years and still kept kept a flicker of hope alive.

In the meanwhile, let's take a quick recap...

1. IBM abandoned CHRP.
2. Apple left PowerPC.
3. Freescale closed the Computer Products Division.

Who can succeed in this environment given we have a PowerPC target?!

To top it off, open source software became the fuel for billions and billions in revenue for big (big) companies. You could say: Game Over for proprietary software not linked to WIndows. Look at the pressure being felt by much more established players such as Green Hills and QNX (and they are in the embedded market - hint).

Why are we still playing? Is the adoration we get here and on MZ or moobunny?

We have a conference call starting in a couple of minutes. Will will proofread (first pass made) and will finish this later.

R&B

Last edited by bbrv on 20-Sep-2006 at 11:48 AM.

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      Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.COBRA20-Sep-2006 12:08:09
          Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.bbrv20-Sep-2006 12:14:11
              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.COBRA20-Sep-2006 12:37:55
                  Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.bbrv20-Sep-2006 12:44:46
                      Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.saimo20-Sep-2006 12:49:49
                          Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.bbrv20-Sep-2006 13:02:43
                              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.saimo20-Sep-2006 13:10:41
                              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.TheMagicM20-Sep-2006 13:17:25
                              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.21-Sep-2006 8:05:56
                                  Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.pixie21-Sep-2006 9:08:57
              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.number620-Sep-2006 12:55:11
                  Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.bbrv20-Sep-2006 13:16:36
                      Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.jkirk20-Sep-2006 13:47:52
                          Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.bbrv20-Sep-2006 17:04:21
                              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.Benji20-Sep-2006 17:12:14
                              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.saimo20-Sep-2006 17:17:04
                              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.Mark20-Sep-2006 17:22:18
                              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.jkirk20-Sep-2006 18:07:55
                                  Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.bbrv20-Sep-2006 18:19:58
                                      Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.Skyraker20-Sep-2006 18:21:22
                                          Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.saimo20-Sep-2006 18:26:42
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                                          Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.pixie20-Sep-2006 18:39:11
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                                              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.tomazkid21-Sep-2006 19:52:50
                                      Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.tomazkid20-Sep-2006 22:31:02
                                          Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.pixie20-Sep-2006 23:28:06
                                              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.tomazkid21-Sep-2006 0:00:33
                                                  Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.pixie21-Sep-2006 0:38:01
                                                      Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.DoodooHead21-Sep-2006 0:56:07
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                                              Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.cecilia21-Sep-2006 13:44:51
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                                                      Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.bbrv20-Sep-2006 18:10:07
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                                                          Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.AmigaHeretic20-Sep-2006 18:30:50
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                                  Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.Dirk-B20-Sep-2006 18:41:53
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                                      Re: EFIKA, interviews, a future, etc.DoodooHead20-Sep-2006 18:50:13
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