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COBRA 
Re: First round goes to Hyperion
Posted on 15-Jun-2007 20:31:33
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@Plaz

ChrisH's post pretty much reflects my opinion as well. Hyperion and AInc had disagreements on very basic issues like who owns what, etc. and Hyperion did not want to go out and announce OS4 for new hardware without Amiga Inc's approval as that would have obviously upset Amiga Inc., which would not have helped to resolve the issues in a friendly manner, avoiding a lawsuit. I don't think Hyperion needs to worry about that now since they're in the middle of a lawsuit anyway and as long as they honour the contract until it is proven to be invalid, they have nothing to lose if they released OS4 for new hardware within the scope of the contract.

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      Re: First round goes to HyperionPlaz16-Jun-2007 1:17:23
          Re: First round goes to HyperionFoody16-Jun-2007 1:31:00
              Re: First round goes to HyperionPlaz16-Jun-2007 1:52:31
                  Re: First round goes to HyperionManu16-Jun-2007 9:42:42
                      Re: First round goes to HyperionRob16-Jun-2007 17:14:13
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                              Re: First round goes to HyperionColin_Camper17-Jun-2007 12:15:00
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Re: First round goes to Hyperion
Posted on 15-Jun-2007 18:12:04
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@Plaz

I think there's a difference between the letter and the spirit of the contract here. Clearly the contract was intended to limit OS4 to the AmigaOne hardware and to PPC expansions for existing Amiga hardware, but what was actually written in the contract does not appear to do this.

Either Hyperion was playing nicely up until now in the hopes of reaching a settlement, or they really aren't going to release OS4 for any "unlicensed hardware" until the court case is settled.

If they do release something they risk validating Amiga Inc's case if the judge goes with Amiga's interpretation of the contract.

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Re: First round goes to Hyperion
Posted on 15-Jun-2007 17:43:28
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@Plaz
Why have we been waiting so long for new hardware? Easy I think, but we must cover a bit of history:

Until 2005 we had the (Micro) Amiga One. Once it was clear no new hardware was coming from Eyetech (probably late 2005?), Hyperion clearly would have been asking Amiga Inc to license new hardware.

Now, perhaps not coincidentally, on 22-Sept-2005 Bill McEwan requested the OS4.0 source code from Evert Carton. Hyperion refused, presumably because of outstanding debts (among other issues). While Amiga Inc was negotiating with Hyperion on this issue, they obviously would not want to give-away one of their biggest bargaining chips - the licensing of hardware.

Even if licensing of hardware is not technically needed (and I am not convinced yet), Hyperion may still have kept to Amiga Inc's interpretation of the contract, to keep them happier during negotiations. But by November 2006 we know that negotiations had fallen apart. Fast-forward a few months, and Hyperion announces a hardware deal with ACube.

Thus the simple answer is that I believe Hyperion delayed new OS4 hardware until negotiations with Amiga Inc terminally failed. edit: Of course, so far there is no proof ACube that will make OS4 available for their Samantha board, but that seems the likely course of events IMHO.

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