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umisef 
Re: First round goes to Hyperion
Posted on 22-Jun-2007 1:43:14
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@COBRA

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Simple: compare the feature list of the release in 2004 with the feature list outlined in the contract, and there you go.


Indeed. Still not completed. Ouch!

*If* you want to try to reduce "completed" to something as simple-minded as that, *then* you'll have to be rather simple-minded about it, too. No "Oh, well, you know, Matrox did not work out, so we had Radeon drivers instead", no "Ah, yes, JIT --- you know, our interpreting emulator was plenty fast", no "Really, there were no programs using 3D anyway, so why should we have provided a 3D API?".

Was everything done that was listed in the contract --- no. Simple as that.

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At the end of 2006 when AI paid additional amounts, they owed a lot of money to Hyperion for the arctic work.


You keep saying this. Did you read that Arctic contract? It's all about "pay first, then we work. No pay, no work!". And if you read the McBill interview, it says something along the lines "we paid additional tens of thousands of dollars for the Arctic port".
What indication do you have that *any* work was done on the Arctic stuff that was not paid for in advance? I have read every document submitted to the court, and I certainly have seen neither side mention anything about that....

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      Re: First round goes to HyperionCOBRA22-Jun-2007 7:54:48
          Re: First round goes to Hyperionumisef22-Jun-2007 8:39:33
              Re: First round goes to HyperionAlexC22-Jun-2007 10:13:49
              Re: First round goes to HyperionCOBRA22-Jun-2007 11:27:22
                  Re: First round goes to Hyperionumisef22-Jun-2007 15:36:53
                      Re: First round goes to Hyperionssolie22-Jun-2007 17:40:40
                          Re: First round goes to HyperionManu23-Jun-2007 8:12:16
                      Re: First round goes to HyperionCOBRA23-Jun-2007 6:43:28
                          Re: First round goes to Hyperionacefnq25-Jun-2007 10:37:18
                          Re: First round goes to HyperionTigger25-Jun-2007 16:34:19
                              Re: First round goes to HyperionCOBRA25-Jun-2007 19:25:58
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                                      Re: First round goes to HyperionCOBRA26-Jun-2007 11:00:03
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                                                  Re: First round goes to Hyperionumisef27-Jun-2007 1:38:03
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                                                                      Re: First round goes to HyperionThe_Editor27-Jun-2007 15:15:34
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                                                                      Re: First round goes to HyperionTigger27-Jun-2007 16:46:43
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                                                              Re: First round goes to HyperionCodeSmith27-Jun-2007 8:28:56
                                                              Re: First round goes to HyperionAmigaHeretic27-Jun-2007 8:30:42
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                                                          Re: First round goes to HyperionAmigaHeretic27-Jun-2007 8:23:44
                                                      Re: First round goes to HyperionCOBRA27-Jun-2007 8:03:36
                                                          Re: First round goes to Hyperionumisef27-Jun-2007 8:55:24
                                                              Re: First round goes to HyperionCOBRA27-Jun-2007 9:29:46
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                                                                          Re: First round goes to Hyperionumisef27-Jun-2007 11:11:51
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                                                                              Re: First round goes to HyperionAndroxyn27-Jun-2007 11:49:41
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                                              Re: First round goes to HyperionCOBRA26-Jun-2007 19:12:51
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Tigger 
Re: First round goes to Hyperion
Posted on 21-Jun-2007 18:23:01
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Joined: 2-May-2003
Posts: 2097
From: Rocket City, USA

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COBRA wrote:
@Tigger

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Q: what proof do you have that the software was completed in 2004


Simple: compare the feature list of the release in 2004 with the feature list outlined in the contract, and there you go. Noone can argue that it was not completed. Everything else you stated is irrelevant.


I think I can argue succesfully that the December 2006 release doesnt have the entire feature list outlined in the contract, so I'm not sure Hyperion should argue they were feature complete in December of 2004.
-Tig

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