@CodeSmith

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I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying, but what are your conclusions? it sounds like you're saying that we are all wasting our time and we might as well just use Windows/Mac/whatever?

Maybe he's saying everybody should stop wasting time and money sueing everybody else.

or

Maybe he's saying money should be spent developing "something" ie. ANYTHING wether that be hardware or software that might possibilty to attract NEW people to the platform at somepoint down the road instead of GIVING $10,000,000.00 AWAY to some Hockey stadium in the MIDDLE OF NO-WHERE

or

Maybe he is saying we are all wasting our time and we should be using Windows/Macs/whatver


No one at the reigns ever wants to PLAN for the future though it seems. The just want to make a quick buck, take the short route, just use something "pre" made, like Intent and rebadge it and base their whole company on that, INSTEAD of THEIR product that AMIGA was based on in the first place! Well, at least until Hyperion makes it kick as and TAO goes under, well, then they want AmigaOS... sure then it looks good, because hey it's already done, and then they can make a quick buck. Quick change the business plan!! Wonder what it will be next week?? Something running ontop of linux or QNX again?

Oh well what do I know

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@CodeSmith

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but what are your conclusions? it sounds like you're saying that we are all wasting our time and we might as well just use Windows/Mac/whatever?

Well, whether you are wasting your time or not depends on what it is you are trying to do, and what you are willing to do to get there.

If the idea is for AmigaOS to become a player in the OS market that can compete, user-base wise, with at least the average *BSD variant, and for that to happen without major changes to both the product as well as the development process, then yes, you are wasting your time. It ain't gonna happen.

If all you want is to maintain the user base of around 1000, and are willing to treat your use of AmigaOS as a hobby, the same way some people collect stamps or take photos, then sure, the current model might actually work (assuming that the litigation does not screw it up royally). Things will always be rather more expensive (but being one of the photography-hobbyists myself, I can assure you that that isn't cheap, either), and it's always going to be a bit clunky, and behind the times --- but it could survive in this state for at least a few more years.

Or you could dream about AmigaOS making a major comeback, as some people around here seem to do. Which in itself isn't even impossible --- but it ain't gonna happen as long as the OS is written by two guys whose main qualification for the job was that they sat through a couple of OS lectures during their CS degree (lectures which they at the time considered unlikely to ever be of any use, no less...), and a tiny army of a few dozen volunteers. It ain't gonna happen if everyone working on the OS does so only when no real work is available.
One only needs to look at the court documents (and the resulting comments here), talking about Hyperion having spent (gasp) OVER A MILLION DOLLARS (amazed look) on the OS4 development over the last 5+ years. That number is being thrown around as if it was an impressive, big number --- and yet, a million bucks is less than Apple spend on R&D each and every day. If even just 10% of their R&D budget goes into MacOS X development, then in the last 10 years, that's roughly half a billion.

If anyone has a cool quarter of a billion to spare, trying to bring AmigaOS into the mainstream again might be attempted. Although one might be better off just starting from scratch, and doing things right.... Be tried, but ran out of money (and made the silly switch to BeIA as a consequence) before they succeeded. Without that sort of backing --- not a chance.

Hopefully this noise-filled vacuum is an indication that A-Inc and Hyperion are in fact attempting negotiation and/or mediation.

Or, they are simply regrouping for the next battle...


I'm getting pretty tired of popcorn.