@Trixie

I was wondering about something related to this; I hope no one minds my asking. There's a bit of a long background.

Two decades ago, I used to frequent amiga.org. The guy who ran the place was openly hostile to Amiga Inc., a going thing at the time. (That's how long ago this was.) I didn't sympathize, since I thought the TAOS route was a cool idea and unlike a lot of people I actually received my $50 T-shirt and coupon. (That's how long ago this was.)

The red vs. blue war was in full swing and as I recall, Wayne, then-owner of amiga.org, was sore that Amiga Inc. had clumsily tried to assert trademark rights over amiga.org, or something to that effect. I think they came to an understanding, but Wayne never let it go. (I might have misunderstood.)

I wasn't necessarily a red camp partisan, but I was a red camp sympathizer, and the red v. blue war was so nasty at amiga.org that, when I discovered amigaworld.net, I made a permanent move. It was a friendly place, relatively speaking. The Frieden brothers would post here on occasion.

Of course, progress on OS4 was slow, and off-topic posts tend to be very, very common here. That wasn't uncommon on most websites then, but I had no particular motivation to stick with Amiga (couldn't afford the hardware) so I paid less attention and have sometimes gone years without visiting. I seem to remember that the Friedens got some really rough treatment in a thread here, or something, and decided no longer to post.

I might be misremembering some details; we're talking about a decade and a half, after all.

With all that background, finally I'm getting around to my question.

Somewhere in that period, amigaworld.net went totally off the rails. There's almost no useful discussion of Amiga-related matters, and most discussion seems to be personality-based -- well, no, to the contrary; it's personality-disorder-based. What used to be friendly to the red camp is now... er, to put it euphemistically, cynical.

You mention amigans.net. Years ago, I acquired the impression that amigans.net was merely an outpost for red camp extremists of the sort who felt that amigaworld.net's occasional despair at Amiga Inc's incompetence was seen as insufficiently obsequious to the red camp. That is, people went to amigans.net in order to get the latest red camp propaganda of the day.

But my recent, occasional visits suggest that it is indeed a pretty sane place, much like what amigaworld.net used to be, or at least what it was intended to be.

a) Does that sound right?

b) If so, what happened?

c) If not, where am I mistaken?

PS I was recently reflecting on the red v. blue wars and remembered Bill Buck, of Thendic / Genesi fame, who sponsored MorphOS and brought the Pegasos hardware. "No Mai without April." So, blue-ish camp. As I recall, he was genuinely unpopular around amigaworld.net; as I say, this site was friendly to the red camp. He's still out there, selling real computer products to real clients. So it seems that he's the only character in that sordid red v. blue affair who turned out to be the real deal, at least in the long run. I guess that abandoning the Amiga scene early on kept him free from the Amiga curse.

Last edited by simplex on 14-Apr-2021 at 02:51 PM.

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