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Hypex 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 9-Aug-2021 15:03:16
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How do you explain how Apple could switch from 68k to PPC and then X86?


That's easy. The PPC MacOS is almost a clone of of 68K MacOS. From a user perspective. Both are big endian. Once ported to PPC they dumped MacOS and brought in MacOSX. OSX is portable and can run on big or little endian. On Intel they did exactly that. By then they had a portable OS. Now a switch to ARM, doing it again. Same endian as Intel. Just a new compile, targeting another CPU, and changing the name. They dropped the X and turned the OS into an improper noun by calling it macOS in the process. Mac isn't neat any more.

Amiga, if we consider the OS4 route, is still stuck at the level of MacOS9. MacOS9 on PPC was just like MacOS8 on 68K. AmigaOS4 is like MacOS9 on PPC.

OTOH, Windows has survived and been redesigned without a CPU switch. Just evolving along with the same CPU arch updated order the years. Apart from Apple, no one is replacing Intel, so it kinda looks Amiga and Mac look bad that they need to switch a CPU every ten years.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 15-May-2021 14:10:57
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@OlafS25

It is simple.
Apple switch to unix on ppc before switch to x86.
Everything below gui was cut off.
Almost all classic Mac Os was gone.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 14-May-2021 15:42:29
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@OlafS25

True but latest MacOSX does not support MC680x0 programs nor does it support PowerPC programs, they dropped all support, so if you own old program a few decades back you can’t use these programs, that might be OK on Apple hardware, but I don’t think its ok in Amiga land to cut off your leg (cut off old software), to get a leg replacement (software replacement), because no one is making leg replacements (software replacements) for really old stuff. AmigaOS is retro platform if you like it or not, if want to have security, then you use different OS, like Windows or Linux, AmigaOS does not even have up to date virus killer software pack, and databases are not kept up to-date.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 14-May-2021 14:12:21
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@OlafS25

And then to M1
The real problem is that AmigaOS 4.1 is so outdated and primitive that it is not really an alternative to modern OSes. Back then it was better but how can it compete now? it’s too late. If it was open sourced maybe some talented coders could work on it an break the damn compatibility to be able to have something better.

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Last edited by kamelito on 14-May-2021 at 02:16 PM.

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
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OlafS25 wrote:
@ppcamiga1

How do you explain how Apple could switch from 68k to PPC and then X86?

It is of course possible to go that route but there are simply not the resources to do it


This is really the crux of the matter: the Amiga community, at large, doesn't have that many "resources", i.e., developers... so let's stop the infighting please

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