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Poster | Thread | number6
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 2-Jun-2021 18:34:39
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Just another quick note.
We have a business here "Amikit". Jan prolly wonders how he got dragged into this discussion. heh.
Perhaps for clarity we should stop using Amigakit, Amikit, A-eon, etc. interchangeably? Not to mention the references to A-eonkit...
I'm not going to call Amiga Inc. "leader", but historically Hyperion and Eyetech were the Amigaone Partners and Amiga Inc. was tasked as the management arm of the triad. At that point there was at least a hope of management equating to leadership.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 2-Jun-2021 18:15:22
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For AmigaOS, everybody wants to be in charge and no-one is accepted as captain.
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That's simply not true - the 3.2 team has managed to come up with what looks like a very respectable release - with zero input from Hyperion or anybody else. Everything they do suggests to me there's a functioning team at work here.
It's true that there's no shortage of wannabe dictators in this market. There's two reasons for that: lack of actual leadership for more than three decades - and greed. The first one will always be a problem - for some reason, nobody wants to listen to Captain Gutjahr.
But open sourcing AmigaOS might actually address the second problem: it sends a very clear message to all the "developers need be paid" and "professional investors" and "let's be as secretive as possible" wannabe-managers that actually created this whole mess. Open sourcing AmigaOS is the equivalent of saying (amongst other things): "Let's take a step back, look at this from a technical perspective and have a honest and open conversation about what could or should be next".
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You made it clear several times that this is your opinion. But that doesn't make it true.
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No, it's not my opinion. Here's what Matt posted in this very thread:
"As we have seen, agreements can be contested which puts development into jeopardy. This means that we cannot work on other entities' code base and develop it commercially as it is very unlikely we would see any financial remuneration to even cover basic costs."
Him not going to work on "other entities' code base" doesn't leave much room for speculation.
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This situation is totally different when everybody start to write their own version of amigaos4
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That's the point: There will always be only one version of AmigaOS, because only one party can call its product "Amiga" OS (or at least not more parties than now). If you want to know how much difference that makes, ask the MorphOS team, who got mostly ignored ever since Bill Buck stopped handing out free Pegasos computers. Or the AROS crowd.
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There was no consenses about Hyperion as leader. There is no consensus about Aeon as leader.
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You must live in a different reality than me. There always is consensus about who's the leader - until they #### up really, really bad. For about a decade or so. Then, maybe, some people will start to express their concern by no longer adding dancing bananas to everything they post here.
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But do you think that we would be here today if Aeon wasn't actually funding that development?
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Define "here"? We still can't play HD video unless we sacrifice a lamb first, we still have a graphics subsystem from the stoneage despite plans being made a decade and a half ago to fix that - and instead of an open industry standard, we are using a proprietary solution for our 3D API. Plus, anybody who wants to use uptodate drivers is forced to finance Amigakit's wannabe OS replacement.
The fact that we still have experienced and motivated people like Hans (and maybe a dozen more devs) and abuse them like that - or worse, prevent them from contributing at all, for some extremely stupid reason - should anger you more than it angers me. |
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