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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 4-Jun-2021 20:26:57
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Ok let’s elaborate on that, when Ben and Trever D, partnered up create company AEON, ben did take money from AEON to cover legal costs, only after it had happened Trever D found out about it, these parts of public records. These legal costs as direct consequence of legal disputes between Hyperion and Cloanto.
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No. the legal costs that nearly bankrupted Hyperion and made Ben allegedly (according to Trevor) steal money from A-EON Belgium are from the 2007-2009 lawsuit against Amiga Inc. A litigation Hyperion (i.e. Ben) provoked, hoping he could get his hands on OS4 that way.
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Ongoing legal disputes between Hyperion and Cloanto, has been disaster for Hyperion ability pay developers, and can have most likely delayed product from shipping? Fact or fiction?
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Hyperion hasn't really been paying developers for more than a decade. The Cloanto-Hyperion litigation started in December 2017.
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Trever D, had to buy ExecSG
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Another consequence of the Hyperion-Amiga litigation: the Friedens were no longer getting paid, after a few years of that they sold to Trevor. Nothing to do with Mike Battilana.
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A-EON / Trever D had to remove "AmigaONE" from all its web pages, due to ongoing legal disputes.
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No, they had to do that because of their decade-long, ongoing bitch fight with Hyperion. Again, this has nothing to do with Cloanto.
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That speech was given 11 months before Cloanto sued Hyperion, I doubt Trevor says anything in that video regarding Cloanto, but I'm not going to watch a 30 minute video to find out.
(Edit: typos)Last edited by cgutjahr on 04-Jun-2021 at 10:00 PM.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 4-Jun-2021 19:28:11
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Let me take a look based on your paragraphs... Quote:
Ok let’s elaborate on that, when Ben and Trever D, partnered up create company AEON, ben did take money from AEON to cover legal costs, only after it had happened Trever D found out about it, these parts of public records. These legal costs as direct consequence of legal disputes between Hyperion and Cloanto. |
Mini timeline in case it helps...
Trevor Dickinson, Anthony Moorley, and Ben Hermans formed A-Eon (Belgium) The event referred to as the forgery/theft/bank fraud (depending on which article you use as a source) was discovered by Anthony. Anthony couldn't leave fast enough, after which the A-Eon (as you know it now) was formed without Ben Hermans obviously.
This event in turn means the X1000 project suffers, later to be introduced at Bletchley (retro show). Trevor later writes openly about having to get the project back on track. 2010 show report
As we are talking about the year 2010 here...I don't understand your connection to a lawsuit that began 7 years later. Sorry.
Paragraph 2. I don't know which exact product you refer to, so I'll skip that one.
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A1222 had to be redesigned becouse has not shipped on time, parts can no longer be obtained, fact or fiction? |
The only factual public info on this would be the obvious redesign due to the parts obsolescence. Only Trevor and Matthew could speak to other issues, but since the work shifted to Acube and was not planned that way originally...there might be an issue there.
Most of the rest would have to be answered by Trevor.
But re:Amigaone You'll note a clickable link for X5000 on amiga.org wiki, but not for X1000. Source As X1000 began under the first incarnation of A-Eon, it maintains its connection to partnership with Hyperion in its own wiki. Source
#6Last edited by number6 on 04-Jun-2021 at 07:55 PM. Last edited by number6 on 04-Jun-2021 at 07:43 PM. Last edited by number6 on 04-Jun-2021 at 07:35 PM.
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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark Posted on 4-Jun-2021 19:17:33
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NutsAboutAmiga wrote: @jorit2
Ok let’s elaborate on that, when Ben and Trever D, partnered up create company AEON, ben did take money from AEON to cover legal costs, only after it had happened Trever D found out about it, these parts of public records. These legal costs as direct consequence of legal disputes between Hyperion and Cloanto.
Ongoing legal disputes between Hyperion and Cloanto, has been disaster for Hyperion ability pay developers, and can have most likely delayed product from shipping? Fact or fiction?
A1222 had to be redesign becouse has not shipped on time, parts can no longer be obtained, fact or fiction?
Because legal disputes, Trever D, had to buy ExecSG, and pay the developer for there work, work Hyperion should have played for, is this not direct consequence of the legal disputes?
AEON had to remove "AmigaONE" from all its web pages, due to ongoing legal disputes.
Costumers’ uncertainty has not costed AEON any money? |
I'm not elaborating on any of that. I was just commenting on what you posted, about the relationship between Mike and Trevor as if it were a fact.
Other than that: You're asking me to elaborate on things that went on after I left, or was not a part of. Other than what I heard mostly through the grapevine, hearsay in other words, I am not privy to what went on between Ben and Trevor regarding A-EON. I chose not to be a part of AEON or the X1000 project. Same applies to anything related to A1222. Given my current position I may or may not have a little insight in the dispute between Hyperion and Cloanto ... but then again ... given my position I'm not in a position to talk about it.
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Besides, you don't even believe I am really who I claim to be Last edited by jorit2 on 04-Jun-2021 at 08:28 PM. Last edited by jorit2 on 04-Jun-2021 at 07:21 PM.
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