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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 19-Jun-2021 10:08:42
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@amigadave

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I wonder how many of those law firms retracted their representation of Hyperion due to lack of payment?


My thoughts exactly. Tho wouldn't be surprised if it would be case of one of following.

"Withdrawal is also justified if the client persists in a course of action that the lawyer reasonably believes is criminal or fraudulent, for a lawyer is not required to be associated with such conduct even if the lawyer does not further it. Withdrawal is also permitted if the lawyer's services were misused in the past even if that would materially prejudice the client. The lawyer may also withdraw where the client insists on taking action that the lawyer considers repugnant or with which the lawyer has a fundamental disagreement."

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matthey 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 19-Jun-2021 5:10:38
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Joined: 14-Mar-2007
Posts: 1968
From: Kansas

amigadave Quote:

I wonder how many of those law firms retracted their representation of Hyperion due to lack of payment?


Possible scenario...

Ben Hermans contacts the law firm and asks them to take the case involving Hyperion. The law firm finds out he is an IP lawyer which are some of the richest lawyers and initially give him a high priority from senior partners. Then they find out the specifics of the case, the poor financial record of Hyperion and the lack of ethics of Hyperion which becomes clear is controlled by Ben. They realize that Hyperion could declare bankruptcy or stop paying and they could be out a month or more of bills. Bill payments may already be slow from Hyperion. What looked like a lucrative business IP and contract case now doesn't look so good. It is not so easy to drop a client especially using information discovered from the case as that would be a conflict of interest. Maybe it is time to put junior partners on the case and spread out the work so the loss of payment wouldn't be as painful.

amigadave Quote:

How ironic will it be for Ben to lose this case, if Cloanto/Amiga Inc. uses the exact same tactics he used to force McBill to sign away the farm in 2009? At some point it should become clear that Hyperion can't recoup all these legal costs, from our tiny niche community, no matter how many AmigaOS developers he gets to work for free for him.


Cloanto is "nuking from orbit" Hyperion the same way Hyperion was "nuking from orbit" Amiga Inc.? Did Ben Hermans forget the golden rule? Karma?

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Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 19-Jun-2021 3:56:38
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" At some point it should become clear that Hyperion can't recoup all these legal costs, from our tiny niche community, no matter how many AmigaOS developers he gets to work for free for him"

Yeah, independently of who wins or has reason, what a pathetic judicial system most of the western world has...

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