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amigadave 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 23-Jun-2021 19:39:46
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@eliyahu

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eliyahu wrote:
@jaokim

In what way, shape, or form would 'Amiga Addict' magazine confuse people with AmigaKit, Ltd., a reseller?! That TM7 form is indeed a formal notice, and Matthew should have it withdrawn. Now. Today. Immediately. And issue a groveling apology for overreach on his part.

This is just one instance of a long line of heavy-handed actions trying to extend control over as much of the commercial Amiga space is as legally allowed (or that can be gotten away with). The reaction to this is nearly unanimous, and the bullying must stop forthwith. I guarantee Amiga Addict will pick up more subscribers and Matthew will lose customers. For me it really opened my eyes.

-- eliyahu


Sadly, it appears that Matthew has been infected by having direct contact with Ben Hermans and Hyperion Entertainment. I fear that even Trevor is at risk of following Matthew down this road to "Nowhere", as any attempt to gain control of what value remains of the Amiga trademarks and copyrights, is just seen by the community as greed and destructive, to something that clearly should have been abandoned commercially, and Open Sourced, long, long ago. As others have mentioned in many community communication outlets and website forums, the Amiga market is nothing but a "cottage hardware industry" and "bedroom programming for peanuts" niche market. Anyone thinking that they will make more than beer money from this market is foolish. Any person or company who becomes heavy handed in trying to dominate domain names will be hated by the community, so even the small amount of money that might be available through web traffic ads, is a dangerous thing to pursue. I give Trevor just a tiny bit more leeway on this, because he has invested hundreds of thousands of pounds/dollars/euros, in (some would say foolish) attempts to revive the community, by producing hardware, and funding software development. This is money that he will likely NEVER recoup, not even if he can release and sell every Tabor/A1222 system that he has purchased CPU's for.

I also give Mike of Cloanto a pass, because he has methodically attempted to legally purchase all rights to the Amiga IP, copyrights, and trademarks, through buying them, not stealing them, like some other company has done. But even his attempts to bring everything related to Amiga back under control of one company is seen by a large part of the community as a bad thing, motivated by greed and desire for control. Personally, I think having everything back under the control of just one company "Might" be a good thing, but I'll reserve final judgement until after I see what Mike plans to do with it all. I'm really hoping that he is true to his word, and will someday figure out a way to Open Source the Amiga IP. I just don't know how he can afford to spend this kind of money acquiring the IP through this court case, and then later give what he has paid so much to acquire away to the community?

I don't know where this is going to lead, but it certainly is not good for anyone in the Amiga community.

Last edited by amigadave on 23-Jun-2021 at 07:50 PM.
Last edited by amigadave on 23-Jun-2021 at 07:47 PM.

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jaokim 
Re: Cloanto acquire Amiga Inc Trademark
Posted on 23-Jun-2021 18:29:33
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From: Sweden

@eliyahu

Not being a lawyer, but they way I understood it, is that this just buys AmigaKit time to look things over.
I mean, in theory, Amiga Addict could have more elaborate plans for their trademark application. Why do they feel a need to have a trademark in the UK, when they cannot understand AmigaKit trying to protect theirs?

Actually, /conspiration mode/, Amiga Addict could very well have this grand master plan to file for a trademark, talk about how bad AmigaKit dealt with it, and then once they get their trademark, start becoming a reseller. “Come buy from Amiga Addict and not evil AmigaKit!”

Weirder things have happened in the amiga world.

/conspiration mode off/

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