@simplex Hi, I am just keeping short, no to pollute this thread. ;)
"The situation in most Western countries is that we are increasingly extending what should be a safety net to subsidize the middle class."
Due health reasons I was umemployed for a long time. And here in Germany you getiing preassure to find a new job. Its not the reported paradies for decades now. You have to absolve so called "meassurements". So I have quite some experience with people who are unemployed. I did 15 measurements. Our capitalist societys are creating loosers. The trash of our society that nobody wants to see or hear about. People who are ill, too old, or simply not being able to fit in, maybe with bad education. Its a hard life and far away from being a substituted middle class. Thats what "they" are telling you. Just to feel comfy. To close your eyes. Why does a middle class citizen needs to collect deposit bottles? And I am also talking about the victims in other countries. Here the rich dont to be surrounded by their victims. That causes criminality. they dont want that. And they want our working power and loyality. So they are keeping us numb.
Should we live in a society with two class medicine? With two class education? Well,,.. some say "it is like it is or do you want to be a communist? " I dont want both. And its a infamous way to argument.
And money is power and power corrupts. You want to get more of it if you have crossed a certain level. The elite is working in roped teams. And here is a distinction. Capitalism is a ecconomic system. Not nessecarily a political system. The context that does exist "obviously" to some is not real. It turns more and more into a contradiction. And so, I think it is wrong to say our social benefits generate a subsidized middle class. Its almost cynical to say so.
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The situation in most Western countries is that we are increasingly extending what should be a safety net to subsidize the middle class. The result is that the middle class takes less and less responsibility for itself, when it really could take responsibility for itself, and the apparent need for a safety net grows.
The working classes (in the UK anyway) used to be proud hard working people. In many ways the overly generous benefits system has robbed whole swathes of the population of the God given dignity of work! People's self worth gets effected when they don't have to provide for their families and it all becomes a game of getting what you're entitled to!! Before you know it we are a semi-communist state or a very unequal socialist/capitalist mish-mash of a country that basically keeps the populace dependant with hand outs rather than encouraging enterprise and ingenuity! We are half way there and the South Korean/Asian work ethic puts us to shame. More worryingly the German system generously supports women so that they can take time off work to have children (and care for them during the first year) and yet their productivity as a country is STILL higher than ours!
Maybe their culture's priorities of spending time with family and nurturing them while at home whilst also promoting hard work while you're at work is what makes the difference? The Protestant work ethic is sorely missed in the UK and Western World in general and without it capitalism has lost its heart and socialism has lost it's sense of human striving and betterment. Self, self, self is what I hear and right now, "I've had a hard year I deserve x, y and z!"
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