@drhirudo

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Hmmm, why this thread was polluted with MorphOS, which is irrelevant?

Why was MorphOS mentioned in the very first post in the thread, and not by a MorphOS user? And why did A3000T, also not a MorphOS user, add to that with some statement about Bill Buck? This is rather typical. Statements are made; people from the "other side" come in to make clarifications or other responses or, in some cases, to flame, and then the fans here wonder how "the pollution" started. If you don't want the Pegasos and MorphOS discussed here, don't bring it up.

These "mine is bigger than yours" arguments are as tiresome to me as to anyone else. Geez, aren't we all tired of this kind of pointless squabbling? But if people do make statements about Bill Buck and Linux or whatever that call for an informed -- but not offensive, I hope -- response, I will chime in from time to time, and it looks like others will also. Again, if the fans of this site don't want "blue pollution," then don't bring the subject up at all yourselves. That's my humble advice.

-- gary_c

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@Samwel

There are 4 AmigaOne users. The rest is all done with multiple nicknames, and anonymous proxy servers.

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@gary_c

While agree with your points, I do disagree with the terminology used to describe the membership base here. The term, as you very well know, "fans" has in the Amiga community negative connotations, back from the old days of ann.lu. Rarely, ESPECIALLY of late have I witnessed such "fandom" as you claim this sites holds on to. I'd ask you not to use it in future as it only prolongs a debate which really has outlived its usefulness.

@thread

Further snide remarks against MOS and BB will not be tolerated, as will anti AOS sentiments not be tolerated. Estimates as to user numbers for both platforms are ok (since it was referred to in the first post as GaryC quite rightly points out), but really there is no need to allow this thread to degenerate.

Thanks.

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My brand new µA1 has serial number µA1C81 I have µA1-C #12 My µA1-C have serial #93

Thank you for answering.
I'm afraid that the winner is user from Poland who recived MicroA1C0179
No, not me unfortunately

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@gary_c

Don't take it personally, that remark I would say is directed to whomever dragged it into the conversation in the first place be it red troll or blue troll. No need to assume it was directed at the blue trolls who posted, especially considering a red troll started it.

The userbase of this site isnt broken up into gestalt entities, just because one poster is a non morphos user doesn\t make them responsible for the actions of another non morphos posting user. The same goes visa versa.

This is so silly 'he started it mum', I used to get a clip around the earole for saying that.

Does look like we can't avoid the same old people fighting their wars though, so maybe we need to go back to strict mode again on the site...

Dave.

There are-
21 AmigaOne users here . . .
13 classic Amiga users here . . .
7 on various UAE's/AROS . . .
3 PowerMac users here . . .
. . . all the rest are still slaves to MS!
AfriGeneas Slave Research Forum

R. Harrison's Slaves - MS - Different Surnames

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@Samwel

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Someone (Kronos?) mentioned that maybe even +5000 Pegasos have been made. But atleast 3000 of these must be pure Linux machines?

Yes, and thats actually good, as it means that HW-development doesn't need to rely only on sales into the "Amiga-market", and it means that the HW is good enough to be sold outside this market.

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Just by looking at MorphZone you'll see that it's almost always the same 30-50 users writing. /Harry

Same could be said about aw.net, a.org amiga-news, ann.lu .....
Thats just how these forums work (even those that aren't about computers).

@Rogue

Everybody in this thread (except you, but you aren't telling) is just guessing, so why is it only me that "has" to back up his numbers ? I mean some of the number are obviously much to high, but somehow being overoptimistic isn't a problem for you.

So you (Hyperion) can either open up on the number of OS4 sold, or you have to live with people guessing.

Yes, this site is very much frequented by OS4-user, but also by users waiting for OS4-classic and even users only interested in 68k. How many of the 3000 accounts have 10 or less posts ? And how many of these only refer to "how to I get game xy to work" or similar ?

As stated above, only very small percentage of users on any forum actually post on a regulary basis, and guessing A1-sales based on the number of regged user is just as accurate as asking mistres Zelda

If on the other side I would just take the users that have posted atleast once this month, AND own an A1, I would come up with a number below 100 (which offcourse is too low).

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@Samwel

I'm Mirco A1 C-Type Owner, Serial Number 37!

Wizz.

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@Kronos

There are also a reasonable percentage of non morphos/pegasos owners registered on morphzone. There are probably those who registered to wait for MOS/Classic or who were thinking about a Pegasos.

So the point being, that you can't derive much from actual population figures, however I suggest you can derive a bit from relative population figures - such as prospective audience ratios as well as existing audience ratios.

As many find it laughable that someone would buy an A1 for anything other than the purpose of enjoying AOS4 at least AmigaONE figures don't have to be concerned about the ratios of AOS4/Linux prime OS issue unlike MorphOS.

So its a complex picture, to which there isn't a satisfactory answer in the public domain, despite what people would have you believe.

BTW, where has the usercounter gone on morphzone.org? For my own curiousity Id like to do a relative count of the A1 owners forum members and registrations at the morphzone portal. Its already far far in excess of the portal that was mentioned earlier in the thread.

Dave.

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@Samwel

A1 XE 933 here and A1200 ppc waiting for spare time.
cant wait for 4.1, 4.5 5.0 etc.

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I haven't been active here for a few months, and I must say that I'm quite pleased with the incerease in activity. New users popping up, lots of interesting reads etc.

Too bad the usual suspects somehow manage to bring down "ship moral" all the time. How come most interesting discussions still end up in a MOS/AOS pissing contest?
I don't read the morphzone forums, but are there Amigans in there bitching too? Always trying to make some silly point about their os not beeing abandoned etc.?

Is it only me who's getting really bloody tired of this!? What is your point?! Who are you trying to convince?
If you don't like the discussions here at aw, don't read them. Or at least stop ruining it for everyone else..

*bah*


/shoe

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I don't read the morphzone forums, but are there Amigans in there bitching too? Always trying to make some silly point about their os not beeing abandoned etc.?

You really have a point here. I read some forums there from time to time and when the AmigaOS/AmigaOne are slammed, nobody cares to answer if the points are valid or not.

Oh well, I can continue more on this but I will be moderated, sorry.

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@DaveP

There is user account counter in MDC but I dont think it means there are 1000 MorphOS developers (!)...

Or hell.. because it is a web counter it must be true

To count users it could be wise to compare serial numbers. I.e. if serial numbers are between 211xx...215xx it could give rough estimation. Just because serial number is XYZ it doesnt mean there are XYZ boards made.

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@itix

Thats why Im basing my side of the equation on members of the a1 owners forum...

Dave.

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Thats why Im basing my side of the equation on members of the a1 owners forum...

This is also incorrect because some A1 owners aren't registered there. For example I am not since Toaks told me there is not much interesting to read anyway.

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@drHirudo

Thats why I said 'basing' and didn't say it was a precise figure. I already know the rough proportion of A1 buyers to A1 buyers who request registration. That gives me an approximate figure.

Because you need a serial number to get in there ( at least one ) its a minimum figure ( admittedly there will be those who had one but no longer do in there too but there are also those that have more than one ... )

Dave.

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@Theodosius

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I do disagree with the terminology used to describe the membership base here.

I didn't mean anything negative by "fans", just "supporters" or something neutral.

I like your avatar, by the way. Too bad about the poisoned fish heads.

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@gary_c
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I didn't mean anything negative by "fans", just "supporters" or something neutral.

You mean users?
I describe myself as an Amiga user and Amiga 1000, Amiga 1200, Amiga 4000 and µA1-C owner.

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I own an amigaone but i never bothered to register for the offical forums.

@gary_c

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gary_c wrote: @Theodosius Quote: I do disagree with the terminology used to describe the membership base here. I didn't mean anything negative by "fans", just "supporters" or something neutral. I like your avatar, by the way. Too bad about the poisoned fish heads. -- gary_c

Bah, I hate it when I read too much into something. Sorry about that. But I still agree with your assertions, and @thread, I still do not want this thread to degenerate .

Yeah I know poor guy. But Daryl poisoned me, so it's ok...


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bah, for some reason I seemed to have remembered that it was Uma

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