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      /  [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
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Poll : If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be interested in donating: (multiple choice)
Yes, I would be willing to donate some amount monthly.
Yes, I would be willing to donate some as I'm able to.
Only if I am able to vote with each donation towards a specific project.
No, I don't think this will work (explain in response).
Maybe, perhaps if.. (explain in response)
Not sure, I need more information (explain below)
 
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Metalheart 
Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 9-May-2005 7:57:36
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I thougt the original idea was to raise money for handing out A1's to developers willing to do something but unable due to lack of money to get an A1 !

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Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 9-May-2005 9:12:37
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First thing. Thanks to TrevorDick for picking up the ball and making this poll.

To further the effort and keep the creative juices flowing a few more thoughts:
(For the record I voted I would donate.)

Have the Big three (Amiga Inc. Eyetech and Hyperion) involved somehow in picking
which software is to be considered (qualified/needed) After all they have already
committed time and money to the Amiga (and maybe even the big 4 if we could get those
people that gave their blood sweat and tears to get MorphOS going. Lots of talented
people there and we need them too imho.


There is ALWAYS a risk involved..life is like that ...crossing the street can be very risky
and making a donation to this has it’s risks too.

But if ya wanna dance ya gotta pay the fiddler or put another way if you don’t play you
can’t win. What I’m say here is there are no guarantees but let’s do the best we can to
make this work and take a chance (assuming “we” get it set up properly)

1. After a donation of say, 50 or 100 dollars/ Euros the donor gets a 25% discount on that
(any) software on the list picked by the big 3 (or 4) when its finished.

Maybe a smaller donation to get a discount on one project picked by the donor.

2. I think a general “slush fund” to fund wegster’s great idea of a “Nobel Prize” like
award for smaller projects would work very well IMO because:

a) This fund would continue to encourage “bedroom coders”
b) Donors could contribute small amounts on a regular basis
c) even a more modest one time amount would help here.


Bob C.

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Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 9-May-2005 12:42:22
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@TrevorDick

I think the only way it would work is the bounty way. You have projects listed and people can donate money to it and a programmer can decide to take it. People can send in projects also. Of course the to do thing should not be that big. And if a project does not get started people should be able to move their money to another project. I think this is the most effective way to get anything started.

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Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 9-May-2005 14:51:47
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@thread

bump. bringing back to the top...seems like a fair amount of voting going on but not much discussion...no one else has their .02c to add? Good discussion so far, but srot of expected more people to have something to say, even if 'not interested, here's why.'

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Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 9-May-2005 15:51:16
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@Step

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It could be setup as a company model i guess, where the organisation in place set up demands for new software and then request bids for the developments

I agree and this is what I have in mind for some time now. But it requires a lot of work to be done correctly. And I don't think anyone has enough time to do such thing right now.
Maybe in a year from now.

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Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 9-May-2005 17:00:21
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@OldFart

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Simply doling out lump sums from the great heap (wishfull thinking) may result in false competition and therefore shy away developers from the H/W base. A simple case may make this clear:


Hmm. So would you instead approve of a community fund that:
1. Awarded or paid for part of A1 boards for specific projects.
2. Occasionally did a $ or hardware award to released products.
3. Communicated interest to public companies to see 'what was needed' and reacted on case by case basis (with donor input in these cases)

Better/worse?
?

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Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 9-May-2005 17:14:54
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@elwood

Quote:
I agree and this is what I have in mind for some time now. But it requires a lot of work to be done correctly. And I don't think anyone has enough time to do such thing right now.
Maybe in a year from now.


Well, this isn't a new idea obviously....but I'd question the part on 'maybe in a year from now.'

I think it's pretty worthwhile to see what people would be willing to do, what their preferences are etc. Even if the groundwork is set up, and things start out slowly, or change over time due to feedback, it needs to start somewhere IMO.

As you can tell, people's 'wants' are all over the place to some extent, from bounties for smaller ports like ssh2 to 'a working web browser'. It's also somewhat questionable as to whether or not commercial companies should be given bounties for something they will later profit on or not (I'd be ok with either, but it's worth thinking about), as well as the donation scheme.

So, I really think it would be possible to get the bulk of the setup etc done in the reasonably near future (although am still waiting for a response from DaveyD about hosting such an effort on AW), doing what can be done, and perhaps evolving as needs dictate..

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Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 9-May-2005 18:40:19
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@OldFart

Quote:
the 'Shoe string fund' as a reaction on the term 'shoe string budget'


Now I take that personally!

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wegster 
Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 10-May-2005 0:19:05
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@shoe
You could say you resemble that remark

(cheesy attempt to bump back near top for another day so hopefully more votes/comments come in)

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Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 10-May-2005 21:28:58
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@Metalheart

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I thougt the original idea was to raise money for handing out A1's to developers willing to do something but unable due to lack of money to get an A1 !


Which is still a part of it as far as everyone seems to be leaning towards, or I have't seen anything excluding doing this. Ideally, maybe we'd get lucky and have a dealer interested in help with a few discounted A1s for this purpose.

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Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 12-May-2005 1:21:55
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@thread

Ok, I'm assuming all comments and votes are in that are going to be?

I'll summarize in a single thread over the weekend.


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Re: [Poll] If an ' OS4 software development fund' was started, to help bring new software or OS4 ports to the community, would you be
Posted on 12-May-2005 1:27:07
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I voted maybe...

I've donated to the Amizilla, but are not too keen on such projects.

I rather spend money on existing software, not on "software to be".

Just got my GoldEd OS4 yesterday

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