@AMiGR

They just restructured the website. The screenshots belong to the category "Amy...the early days" now, so they must be extremely old. Maybe they are even from the time before the two production runs.
They also added a photo of the Tsi107.

"More early pictures to come."

I wonder why only "early" photos are shown since the recent ones would be far more Interesting. Maybe old=current? Just some healthy skepticism.

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@polka.

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I wonder why only "early" photos are shown since the recent ones would be far more Interesting. Maybe old=current? Just some healthy skepticism.

I know this one.....remember Troika talked about a "short story".

Troika is just bringing everyone up to date with " the early days", building on the TAM story.

Enjoy the ride through memory lane

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@stedy

Thanks for the clarification!

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@AMiGR

Well, it's spring time again

Any news about the progress with Amy and Panda?

At least the Panda reports has been promising during the year

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@tomazkid

after reading the forums amy and panda will never happen, its all about the sam now....

@Mr.Spackles

At least Panda works, and runs Linux ok, ssolie made a few screenshots with Gnome on Panda.

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tomazkid wrote: @Mr.Spackles At least Panda works, and runs Linux ok, ssolie made a few screenshots with Gnome on Panda.

That would be the UDTech STB evaluation board, and according to Troika this is *not* what is going to be sold as the "Panda". Troika said that the *Panda* will be a completely different motherboard alltogether, with different specifications, form factor, component and PCB trace layout, etc.

takemehomegrandma:

...which means they probably won't make it without millions in cash.
Designing and manufacturing a completely new motheboard is neither
cheap nor easy. And yes, with all those modifications Troika has said
they would do, it would be an entirely new motherboard.

I'm not even sure the old chipset is RoHS compatible..

Concerning Troika, I found this post on the Amiga.com forums.

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And possibly more likely to get a licence than Troika which is encumbered by a debt load.

Anyone (Samurai Crow?) care to comment?

hatschi:
Thanks for that post.

Anyone cares to comment?

@ironfist

I'll comment . . .

I don't know jack about doodlysquat . . .

But I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night . . .




Sorry . . . I couldn't resist.

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@hatschi
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Quote:Quote: And possibly more likely to get a licence than Troika which is encumbered by a debt load. Anyone (Samurai Crow?) care to comment?

Well lessee...they produced at least a small run of boards which do not function, which I assume wasn't exactly free, and they don't have any saleable product bringing money in. So, investor money aside, no income - yeah that generally leads to debt, so no shock there.

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@jorkany

Not sure I understand your comment.
The UDTech boards are functional.
Isn't it more reasonable to conclude that those boards cost $$$?

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Not sure I understand your comment.The UDTech boards are functional.

He must have been referring to Amy-prototypes. In a news-item some time ago, they mentioned that they had "several prototypes" running. They didn't explain why they could never show a working one at the shows however.

things changes in a year and the amy we all dreamed about will never happen now, sad but true... the new king of vaporware is the sam, and hopefully that will become a reality...

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@hatschi

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He must have been referring to Amy-prototypes.

Of course.
I just think that given the cost of the initial UDTech boards and the # they had, that the larger outlay was probably on those.
Amy, at last report was a 600 hour outlay of time for Ian, though, and it is always difficult to place a value on "intangibles" such as a labor of love.

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Not sure I understand your comment. The UDTech boards are functional. Isn't it more reasonable to conclude that those boards cost $$$?

Sure, they cost a good amout of money. But take a look at the Troika home page and it's not a UDTech board you see there but the homebrew Amy '05.

I dunno...if I had a board that didn't work and the opportunity to sell one that does, I think I would focus my public image on the one that does work. But that's just me, always concerned about actually making a profit in business, like a damn Ferengi or something! lol!

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@jorkany

ok.
But you changed the subject to discussing how you think Troika should have handled Amy vs UDTech.
Your initial point was about where possible debt could have been incurred.
Sorry if my attempt to answer your question was misunderstood.

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@jorkany

The UD-tech board isn't really something they can sell as desktop machine. AmigaOS is a bit of a joke on mainstream sites at the moment because it lacks hardware. If new hardware had to be laid out bare on your desk because it doesn't fit in a case, I think the joke would be even bigger.

Expensive Amiga hardware will be difficult to sell as it is. There is no point in making that job even harder.