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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 3-May-2006 18:38:24
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| @olegil
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Thankfully you haven't seen me code for PIC16F87x... Recently we moved to ATmega from Atmel. Much less swearing going on in my office now. |
If you are tired of speaking #!@!#$% to Atmel and PIC CPU's, try these Freescale CPU's. Proper instruction set and memory maps.
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 3-May-2006 18:54:08
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Thankfully you haven't seen me code for PIC16F87x...
I much prefer the PIC18F series.. Not exactly sane, but far less intense in the stupid mistakes department.
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 3-May-2006 19:04:26
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Hehe, I tend to swear, scream and shout when playing UT. Either that or, when I play well, I stay totally silent and piss everyone off that way! |
I tend to be on Skype at the same time so I usually contain myself I can shout and swear a lot too, but I usually don't go looking for my escape key afterwards..._________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 3-May-2006 19:31:30
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with the only problem really being, the codecs it supports (or rather the fact it supports less formats), and that it doesnt play encoded DVD's | Neither does MPlayer (legally) without buying a DVD player licence, if you can get one for GPL software at all. If you do have a DVD player licence it's no problem at all to play encrypted DVD movies with DVPlayer either. He wants to sell this thing, no matter if he uses MPlayer or DVPlayer or something else he has to buy all required licences for all formats he wants to support. |
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 3-May-2006 22:17:15
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So you have to buy a commercial software to be able to use a GPL one? How crazy this world can be! _________________ Philippe 'Elwood' Ferrucci Sam460 1.10 Ghz AmigaOS 4 betatester Amiga Translator Organisation |
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 4:22:44
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Recently we moved to ATmega from Atmel. Much less swearing going on in my office now. |
Just wait till you move from the Mega8 to the Mega128 and try to make the serial ports work --- only to discover (after MUCH head scratching, crashing and switch-on-this-LED-if-you-get-here) that the 30+ line convoluted (almost obfuscated) macros your boss wrote before you joined the company assume that addresses in I/O space and addresses in MMIO space are identical --- despite the explicit warnings in the manual that one should not make such assumptions.
*sigh* Much swearing happened that day :) Particularly because it turned out he only did so because he didn't know the gcc inline-assembly constraints for I/O space, and apparently couldn't be bothered to RTFM....
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 5:37:37
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Hehe Yeah.. But really not buy software as such. Rather a licence to be able to playback DVD's. It's the same licence every DVD player manufacturer pays.
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 8:16:57
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| @rouge
will os4 be usfull att 266MHz? or is like windows xp on a 166mmx?
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 9:32:05
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Hey, _I_ wrote all the Atmel software MYSELF, so that's ok And we don't use inline assembly. We use avr-libc, GCC and binutils. In recent versions, avr-libc actually works for all our potential target MCUs. It's fracking awesome _________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 9:33:59
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| @T_Power
Dude, I write only in C. If the instruction set and memory map is C-friendly (Atmel good, Microchip bad), I don't care for the specifics. _________________ This weeks pet peeve: Using "voltage" instead of "potential", which leads to inventing new words like "amperage" instead of "current" (I, measured in A) or possible "charge" (amperehours, Ah or Coulomb, C). Sometimes I don't even know what people mean. |
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 10:16:43
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will os4 be usfull att 266MHz? or is like windows xp on a 166mmx? |
No, OS 4 works quite well on 266 MHz. It worked quite nicely on the PDA, I even played a round of (emulated) WBsteroids._________________ Seriously, if you want to contact me do not bother sending me a PM here. Write me a mail |
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 10:34:50
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Now you are just teasing :)
What kind of PDA was it, any possibility that us mortals can get one with AOS installed....
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 10:42:46
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Rogue wrote: @mr.calibra
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will os4 be usfull att 266MHz? or is like windows xp on a 166mmx? |
No, OS 4 works quite well on 266 MHz. It worked quite nicely on the PDA, I even played a round of (emulated) WBsteroids. |
Was/is that PDA the mystery device? And if the answer is yes, what has changed in this time so that you can say it now to us and not kill us?_________________ No PowerPC, No Fun Make Amiga Great Again |
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 10:51:32
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As far as I know.. It is a evaluation pda from IBM using a 405 |
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 11:01:34
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Ahh, so thats where the 405 compile of AOS is used..
Anyway I still want it... :) _________________
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 11:05:22
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It worked quite nicely on the PDA |
Don't use this word as a light saber. You wound us..
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 12:17:46
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| Just a little fast update..
We are currently negotiating with chip suppliers and board manufacturers. One of our demands as customers is of course RoHS compliance. We will also try to build the boards locally to make it more easy for us when it comes to fees and customs.
Yesterday we secured an important investment from a local venture capitalist. Their investment will pay an initial production run of 1000 units.
We are working very hard on this and will contact all strategic partners very soon when we have more to present. This includes Hyperion, of course. With regards to Hyperion we do all negotiations when we have decided where to build it and how much it will cost to us. I hope you all understand that the hardware is the number one priority for us. After the first production run we will know how much money is left for OS4 licensing.
Thank you all for your time, and thank you for all PM's. We read them all even if we don't send a reply. Last edited by rickardr on 04-May-2006 at 12:23 PM.
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 12:26:22
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| "We are a small team working on a new platform for AmigaOS4."
"After the first production run we will know how much money is left for OS4 licensing."
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 12:28:37
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I hope you all understand that the hardware is the number one priority for us. |
No, I don't understand that. When you want to make some kind of device, you have to know what it's going to cost you and the profit you can make. So you have to know beforehand what the OS4+Amiga Inc+Dolby+DTS+whatever license more is going to cost you. Before you know it you'll have a board that is going to be so expensive that you can't compete with other companies. It's completely ridiculous to build something first and then wonder if you're going to make heavy losses on it. But hey, you had OS4 booting half-way right...?
Oh, a name for your device... iLose.Last edited by DaveAE on 04-May-2006 at 12:33 PM. Last edited by DaveAE on 04-May-2006 at 12:30 PM.
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Re: New PowerPC Platform for OS4 Posted on 4-May-2006 12:30:15
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Thanks for another update. Keep us informed. _________________ ikir |
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