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No, I think it's more as Yabba said, he's obsessed with Amiga OS. Like a lot of others here..

Again, I don't see any reason to think that. There's no question that Bill Buck is completely aware of how marginal and inconsequential AmigaOS has become. As time goes on the brand has steadily faded and even taken on a negative aura as Amiga, Inc. has squandered its opportunity. It's possible that BBRV have some personal ambition to own the brand, but they are, if nothing else, very focused businesspeople who do things with the the bottom line in mind. Like I said above, the real motive seems to be to round up the scattered elements remaining on PowerPC and get them all working together for mutual benefit in Power.org.

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Matt Sealey from Genesi told me in an email that Hyperion won't allow OS4 to be ported to the Pegasos because MorphOs runs on it. If they were willing to disallow MorphOs (and, I imagine, pay 20000 Euros for the damn licence), we'd have OS4 running on a Pegasos.

That's bloody-minded & stupid, of course. I, for one, want to have access to both operating systems (and, indeed, any other that will run on the mobo).

That said, don't blame Hyperion. Amiga, Inc are the problem. Lets face it, they don't care about OS4. It's Hyperion's investment, not theirs. If Hyperion never sell a single licvence, it's no skin off their nose.

After all, they still own the OS. And now it's been ported to PPC.

Don't give up hope though. A little bird told me that there's good news coming ...

Well I havent popped in here in quite a long time but decided to register again just to comment in all this.


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LoneHaranguer wrote: Matt Sealey from Genesi told me in an email that Hyperion won't allow OS4 to be ported to the Pegasos because MorphOs runs on it. If they were willing to disallow MorphOs (and, I imagine, pay 20000 Euros for the damn licence), we'd have OS4 running on a Pegasos.

Well I dont see anyone getting a license at all for it. I tried to bring some peace about the time I knew the A1 was in trouble remember? Amiga Inc. Has other strange plans I assume.

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That's bloody-minded & stupid, of course. I, for one, want to have access to both operating systems (and, indeed, any other that will run on the mobo).

As do I and MANY others as you can see from the just about every user that has a PPC board and video card for the classic system now running MorphOS with outstanding results I might add.

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That said, don't blame Hyperion. Amiga, Inc are the problem. Lets face it, they don't care about OS4. It's Hyperion's investment, not theirs. If Hyperion never sell a single licvence, it's no skin off their nose. After all, they still own the OS. And now it's been ported to PPC. Don't give up hope though. A little bird told me that there's good news coming ...

Hmmm... I think both are to blame in all this. I dont think for a second Hyperion would just sit back and watch the A1 crash and burn like they did and not want something to run it on after all the time and money invested in it. I do agree that they have some resentment towards MorphOS running on the Pegasos and having to share the platform with OS4. What would draw potential sales to OS4 if you could get MorphOS free with your Pegasos? Most everything on OS4 can be found native for MorphOS as well now. You can even find a lot of stuff on MorphOS that you cant find on OS4. Looking from the outside in, I would not want a free OS like that to compete with my product if i was Hyperion. If they want to save OS4 though I think it needs to be done. At least release it to classic hardware so they can at least get it in more users hands.

Oh and I missed all of you too!

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Neither board has been photographed, let alone is with Beta testers - so realistically we are a year away from product shipping from dealers.

where did you read, hear this?

Anyhow I wouldn't put much faith in the info.

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@Zylesea

Thanks for the answer. Glad to hear that something is happening. Seems like
atleast a year ago since I heared about the last interim release. When was it
actually?

I truly hope development speeds up now that BBRV once again is starting to look
into supporting MorphOS again.


@Brotheris

Why so hostile? You could have told me the same Zylesea told me..

About "the bitching about releases" I think MorphOS users are more frustrated
about the actual OS because OS4 has had a steady string of updates released
since the first prerelease. We are more frustrated about hardware really.
MorphOS had steady updates upto 2002-2003, then nothing for almost two years,
then 4 smaller updates, then nothing again for some time.
I guess they are finalizing 1.5?! Could be good competition to OS4 final when
released

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@Interesting

But we should instead trust some Texan who won't come out with his real name? Uhm, yeah, seems just right, don't you think?

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@Acill_MOS

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I dont think for a second Hyperion would just sit back and watch the A1 crash and burn like they did and not want something to run it on after all the time and money invested in it.

We aren't, but there are certain borders you cannot cross.

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Most everything on OS4 can be found native for MorphOS as well now. You can even find a lot of stuff on MorphOS that you cant find on OS4.

Can we leave the propaganda out? Thanks.

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I would not want a free OS like that to compete with my product if i was Hyperion.

You severely overestimate that.

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@gary_c

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Not at all. His primary interest in the Amiga market/community is to add momentum to Power.org, which is basically the last stand for PowerPC players

Did that already apply for the VisCorpse period? Or was it something else back then?

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@gary_c

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There's no question that Bill Buck is completely aware of how marginal and inconsequential AmigaOS has become.

May I ask you, if it is so marginal and inconsequential, why are you even bothering to post here?

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@LoneHaranguer

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If they were willing to disallow MorphOs (and, I imagine, pay 20000 Euros for the damn licence), we'd have OS4 running on a Pegasos.

No we wouldn't. Get that in your heads finally.

And besides, either you or Matt Sealey didn't tell you the whole story, obviously. I propose you go back and ask him.

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That's bloody-minded & stupid,

Thanks. I really appreciate that, as does the rest of Hyperion I'm sure.

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@LoneHaranguer

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LoneHaranguer wrote: Matt Sealey from Genesi told me in an email that Hyperion won't allow OS4 to be ported to the Pegasos because MorphOs runs on it.

That remains an unsubstantiated claim, coming as it does from an alleged private correspondence with Matt. Have you sought permission from Matt to post these sentiments?

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Rogue wrote: @Acill_MOS Quote: Most everything on OS4 can be found native for MorphOS as well now. You can even find a lot of stuff on MorphOS that you cant find on OS4. Can we leave the propaganda out? Thanks.

How can that be propaganda
Is it realy that wrong of Acill to say so ?

Oh and Wellcome back Acill Atleast i missed you

@Bodie_CI5

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That remains an unsubstantiated claim, coming as it does from an alleged private correspondence with Matt.

I've seen that e-mail. I'll not quote it here, because I have permission from Matt only (it would require mr. Carton permission, too). As much as I understand Matt told LoneHaranguer the thruth. Or maybe there was more communication on that matter, that I'm not aware of.

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@opi

Sorry Opi, I don't think I made myself clear enough.

What I wanted to convey was since the email remains an email, it is not possible for the members here to scrutinise its claims since it stil belongs to the private realm as opposed to stating that such a claim is BS (ie. I was not ridiculing the essence of what was written for I am not in a position to testify to the truthfulness of what was written).

I meant nothing more than that.

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No worry. I just confirmed that matter, because Matt has no account here and he couldn't do that by himself.

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@opi

Cheers man, thanks for the heads up.

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@WOSPUPOS4

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WOSPUPOS4 wrote: How can that be propaganda

Wether MorphOS has all the same features as AmigaOS4 or if it even has more features that you can't find in AmigaOS4 is completely irrelvant for anything in this thread. To say it, regardless if it is factually correct or not, is therefore nothing but shameless propaganda with very little value for someone like Rogue.

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@Interesting

In a previous life I worked for a manufacturer and used to run with a product from the breadboard given me to the shipping product. Our products were intelligent modems and VDU equipment.
I used this experience to guess - I could be wrong... I don't want to be a doom-monger - just realistic.

@WOSPUPOS4

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How can that be propaganda Is it realy that wrong of Acill to say so ?

Propaganda: The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause.

Doesn't even matter if it's right or wrong, it's just the typical "MOS has much more" and "MOS is better" over and over yadda yadda thing.

Whether it's right or wrong.. *shrugs* Prove one way or the other.

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@opi

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that I'm not aware of.

A very important addition, don't you think?

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