@SlayeR__
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SlayeR__ wrote: @hatschi Quote: Genesi have at least some kind of idea how to run a business. OTOH, And thats not a reason that OS 4 would be better in their hands IMHO, i am not disputing that they can run a business either.

Successfully running a business presumes to actually have something to sell, or to earn money with, no? The same Hyperion is aiming at. I just don't see how Amiga Inc. fits into that picture. They are doing their best to *not* to make any business (except some pennys from AA).

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Amiga INC.´s aim is AA, the only i have heard that have been refused a license is Genesi and AHT, no wonder Genesi didnt get it, dont know why AHT didnt get it.

There are others. Have you read billt's experience with them? It's not just the act of "refusing a license", it's also how motivated a company is to actually make some business and cooperate with potential partners.

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I am more looking for some communication from Eyetech, that they havent completely given up on us.

I am sure you wouldn't like to hear the reasons. For a first hint, reread the "20 questions with Eyetech".

@hatschi

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Successfully running a business presumes to actually have something to sell, or to earn money with, no? The same Hyperion is aiming at. I just don't see how Amiga Inc. fits into that picture. They are doing their best to *not* to make any business (except some pennys from AA).

AA is Amiga Inc.´s business as has been it from the start, noone has seen how much or little they make on that. Huperions business is OS 4 and and future versions, they have done other money making projects too.

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I am sure you wouldn't like to hear the reasons. For a first hint, reread the "20 questions with Eyetech".

I did read it back then it was made, and yes it dosnt look good, but i will still be optimistic about that somehow Eyetech will be a part of the Amiga community someday.

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@Darth_X

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Darth_X wrote: @wolfe This company has various products using similar case stylings. http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/peripherals/dma/d7wdma_lgb http://www.macpower.com.tw/products/peripherals/dma/d7 So as you can see they would adapt their design to any project. ps: Isn't posting these large images a violation of the TOS?

And the design you just showed will be mine when its available to run OS X. Also the one you linked to would have been a better choice representation wise than the one they used.

TOS? Ooops, is so Sorry! I was just quoting.

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@Interesting

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nope Hatschi, not "liberated", more like put under BBRV's thumb of control to line their pockets with $$. A big difference, a very big difference.

Re: "liberated/liberation"

SlayerR_ was posting about "liberating OS 4 from Amiga Inc" - that's just what I responded to. I never said that BBRV would "liberate" anything. We were just talking about potential scenarios.

"line their pockets with $$"

Wow. A company trying to earn money. Now that's quiet evil I must say. Therefore I prefer Amiga Inc. since they seemingly do not have any plans with OS4 and are not trying to earn some cash with it.

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this is all about $$$ and ego, nothing about liberation as some would believe.

I wouldn't call it "liberation" either, but can't see anything wrong with a company earning money (and, err, I don't really care about bbrv's ego either). For me it's just the bottom line that counts, not your personal quarrels. Will we get some new hardware for OS4 before the end of summer or not?

@SlayeR__

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AA is Amiga Inc.´s business as has been it from the start, noone has seen how much or little they make on that.

So why did they sign a contract with the other AmigaOne partners if it's not even their business? Why did they contract Hyperion if they are only interested in AA and not in OS4?
And no, AA hasn't been Amiga Inc's business "from the start".

@hatschi

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hatschi wrote: @SlayeR__ Quote: AA is Amiga Inc.´s business as has been it from the start, noone has seen how much or little they make on that. So why did they sign a contract with the other AmigaOne partners if it's not even their business? Why did they contract Hyperion if they are only interested in AA and not in OS4? And no, AA hasn't been Amiga Inc's business "from the start".

They certainly made it their business when they sold those discount coupons.

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@T_Bone
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They certainly made it their business when they sold those discount coupons.

Hehe, forgot about those. Ok, I completly retract my statement: Amiga Inc. has done real business... . . ...by cheating fellow Amigans.

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@SlayeR__

I used to work in the business.

It took about a year from breadboard to shipping product.

@hatschi

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So why did they sign a contract with the other AmigaOne partners if it's not even their business? Why did they contract Hyperion if they are only interested in AA and not in OS4?

They made it Eyetech and Hyperions business by those contracts, i dont recall that Amiga Inc. should play a role in making A1´s and OS 4, off course they have interest in OS 4 thats why they gave the job to Hyperion, if they as some suggest wasnt interested it would have been so much easier to do nothing.

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And no, AA hasn't been Amiga Inc's business "from the start".

You problaly right on that, but it is the business we can see that they make today.

Edit: tpyo

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@Raffaele
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Try to sell such an Efika with Minimac camouflage and the people will laugh at it as a pathetic clone of it. Efika must have its own design to demonstrate it has its own personality. AND EFIKA *HAS* VERY STRONG PERSONALITY AND ITS OWN HARDWARE SOLUTIONS!

I disagree, putting it in such a case is a good idea. This size design has a lot of supplemental hardware to go with it not counting anything that Apple makes, HD's, Hubs etc. . . I would buy one if it ran OS 4 !

@The_Editor
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Put a slot loading dvd burner in the front... or side and it will be gorgeous. Amy05 would look awesome in that case too.

I agree on both counts . .

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@slayer

Your a hard person to deal with I must say. Will you not be happy until OS4 is dead and gone because they have nothing to run it on? What good will it be to anyone if you cant get any hardware for it?

This project should tell you where BBRV's interests are. They want to produce and sell hardware, its that simple. Why fight it? Who the heck cares who has controll over the license or OS4. As long as its in active development and you can buy and get upgrades for it??

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@Acill_MOS

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Your a hard person to deal with I must say. Will you not be happy until OS4 is dead and gone because they have nothing to run it on? What good will it be to anyone if you cant get any hardware for it?

I happen to believe that Hyperion know more about whats happening on the HW front then we do.

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This project should tell you where BBRV's interests are. They want to produce and sell hardware, its that simple. Why fight it? Who the heck cares who has controll over the license or OS4. As long as its in active development and you can buy and get upgrades for it??

I think he needs OS 4 to sell more HW, and i dont personally trust Bill Buck and his intentions with OS 4.

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@SlayeR__

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It's Bill Buck I don't trust.

Bill Buck? Of REM fame? LOL!

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BBRV

As in "Bill Buck Retro-Virus"? LOL!!!

EDIT: Typo

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@SlayeR__

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SlayeR__ wrote: I think he needs OS 4 to sell more HW,

It would help.

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and i dont personally trust Bill Buck and his intentions with OS 4.

What could happen?

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@T_Bone
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T_Bone wrote: @SlayeR__ Quote: and i dont personally trust Bill Buck and his intentions with OS 4. What could happen?

Be careful, rumours say he wants to make $$ with it!

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@hatschi

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Be careful, rumours say he wants to make $$ with it!

Bill Buck, of (R)apid (E)ye (M)ovement fame? That is, the band that made "Stand"

To paraphrase:

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Stand In the place where you live. now face...

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BBRV

Bill Buck Retro Virus

You ask why? Because, quite obviously, Bill Buck's destroyed Genesi, hasn't he?

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@hatschi

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Will we get some new hardware for OS4 before the end of summer or not?

If I have anything to do with it

The real question Hitachi, (grin) is are you ready to buy?......you are very hard to read. You are like the wind and swing one way some days, and another way a different day. Maybe we need a new poll?

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@PCKiller

Whatever you say buddy... Drugs are no good, believe me.

@hatschi

Oops, sorry...Bill Buck != Peter Buck....Hmmmm.

Better proofread next time, eh?

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