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yoodoo2 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:26:15
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@polka.

No links. Far too lazy for that. iirc it comes from some of Fleecy's babblings at various points relating to plans for OS5+.

The ridiculous difficulty that a couple of reasonably serious looking folk had getting a license plus Rogue's recent comments about "contractual" issues for 4.1+ may be considered supporting circumstantial evidence.


Sure, if someone offered AimgaInc 10 million dollars for OS4+, they probably wouldn't say no. Then again, they might think a higher bidder would come along.

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:27:22
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@Zylesea

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Zylesea wrote:
@Rogue

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Rogue wrote:
@Helgis
te]

Apple went for Intel because they get better prices for their iPod CPU's then.


Conspiracy everywhere...


Tell me about it. Supposedly Apple doesn't represent enough of the market to hurt the makers of the PPC by abandoning them... yet Intel will give them price breaks to gain that same market that didn't dent the PPC makers?

Which is it? Surely Apple represent even LESS of the x86 market, than they did the PPC market.

(I thought iPods used PPC?)

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T_Bone 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:31:13
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@Atheist

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Atheist wrote:
Support AOS4.0 with constructive comments or don't say anything.




Support x86 or don't say anything.

Geeze, some people think only THEY can critisize, and only THEIR opinions should even be spoken.

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:33:27
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@nzv58l
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Would you be willing to wait another 2 years for a port to x86, because everything would have to be rewritten. 2 years is actually quite conservative?

Better than waiting for PPC hardware that might not even show up for sure.
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Would you not be dissapointed if it did not run on your current PC because Hyperion does not have time support the vast amount of PC boards out there?

No, i would totally understand that. The x86 hardware is so much cheaper anyways. I would even be happy with a cheap min itx via system, as long as it runs OS4.
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If it had to be a custom board, because other x86 boards go out of production too fast for Hyperion to keep up, would it be OK if it didn't have the latest and greatest x86 PC, Latest port, connectors etc...?

Depends on the price.. It is not so ok if it is similarely priced like the amigaone PPC.
But really, there is no need to make a custom boards since they use the same chipset and similar for years after it was made. All we have to do is adapt OS4 to newer generation of chipset now and then.
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And what if the price of this new board with the x86(hopefully at least an AMD please) was not that different from what the eyetech boards were?

Well, it is better than having no hardware at all, but i would not be happy with overpriced hardware like the AmigaONE. There is no need for it to be overpriced unless it is a custom board anyways, as they sell in large enough quantities in other markets to be cheap.
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Would it be worth Hyperions time and the cash to go through with it?

Yes! i think there are quite a few ex amigans who would invest in a amigaos based x86 computer.
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Would there not be a ton of direct comparisons from Windows to AmigaOS4?

Of course there would.. but that will happen with ppc as well.
I dont care about the comparisions, as i know OS4 is a better OS for me anyways.

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T_Bone 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:34:15
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@polka.

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@falemagn

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Didn't think there was such an interest in my photo?


I was already thinking about drawing up a petition to have your old one removed.

"Maybe there's still time to change Fabio's avatar for good."


What he needs... is a beanie!

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
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@T_Bone

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T_Bone wrote:
@Helgis

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@Boot_WB

Thanks Yes, no enemies

@All

Yep, seems that PPC RISC really is the future, and i'm very happy for that

If all women were PPC, then we would be even more happy


I like my women x69


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falemagn 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:37:49
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@T_Bone

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What he needs... is a beanie!


You wish! So you could say you look like me, uh?!

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:40:32
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Hyperion, please port all the women from PMS architecture to PPC architecture, otherwise the future will continue to look bloody.

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:42:38
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@T_Bone
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I like my women x69


Don't forget the dual cores

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T_Bone 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:43:20
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@tbrminsanity

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I think AmagaOS should try to fully support all PPC hardware before they try to cross over to X86.


That would be a LOT of work for little gain. Most PPC systems are discontinued. We should be looking for hardware that's not on the downward curve of extinction.

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There is more potential in the PPC side then the X86 because of the requirement for all X86 to be based of the original 8086/8088 computers.


As far as I can see, that's a non sequiter. How does anything after the "because" explain what's before it?

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Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:46:24
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@T_Bone
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(I thought iPods used PPC?)

iPods use neither PPC nor Intel CPU, it uses ARM.

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
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@Atheist

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Oh wait, there's proof that you're here to annoy people.


I'm beginning to think Atheist is just here to annoy people.

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@Atheist

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There's way too many trolls posting on AmigaWorld.Net these days.






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T_Bone 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:50:51
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@falemagn

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@T_Bone

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What he needs... is a beanie!


You wish! So you could say you look like me, uh?!





Nobody'd believe that, but I'd take your name!

"My name's Faaaaaabio!"
Who needs pick up lines with a name like that?

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:55:42
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@Hans

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Hans wrote:

I want OS4 on x86.
You can't have it.
Why not?
I've told you this thousands of times, look it up.
But why not?
Sigh, the decision was made a long time ago, too late to go back.
Really?
Yes really.
That's sad.
Hey, there are some cool PowerPC chips in the works you know.
Really? I'm ok with PowerPC now!
Well I'm not.
Why not?
I want OS4 on x86.


Year 2010, waiting for new PPC hardware...
"Why are we using PPC if it's so hard to find suppliers everytime we need a new board"
"Because there was no interest in x86, if you wanted x86 you should have said something"

...

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Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:55:46
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How about porting OS4 to my super duper whizz bang mother board incorperating A.R.S.E technology?

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Tomas 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:56:39
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@Fransexy
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Fransexy wrote:
@jkirk

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so stop claiming that hyperion must make a new version or rewrite os4 for every board.


Yes they must if we want AOS as fast, responsible and compact as all we all know and love.Or have you intend to boot Beos on a motherboard not fully supported? yes, it is good but not as good as it is running it on a fully supported motherboard

It is enough that they port it to a new and widely used configuration. They do not need to port it to all those different boards out there.

One chipset, a couple of gfx cards, sound chip, a modern widely used nic card and so on...

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T_Bone 
Re: Why AmigaOS SHOULDN'T Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:57:41
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@Tomas

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Tomas wrote:
@Helgis

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Could someone make a poll about something similar about x86? Hopefully Hyperion will finally wake up and understand that Amiga won't survive without supporting x86.

Has already been done atleast 20 times now and most seem to want a x86 port everytime.. But that dosent seem to change the stand of amiga inc or hyperion. I have feeling that hyperion is forced to port it for ppc due to licensing issues with Amiga INC.


Who says it has to be Hyperion? Or even OS4 for that matter? It's been about 6/7 years, it's about time to start talking about an OS5 anyway.

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Posted on 8-Jun-2006 18:59:51
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@Fransexy

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@pixie

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Names please... AROS has it's plus points above AmigaOS 4, and namely of being in x86, 68k and ppc land... and it is open source, which most think that might give it the edge...


Sure, come on clever! where i can download the pre-build 68k an PPC version? exact nowhere


Ok, umm, where can I download OS4? Where can I buy it?

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Posted on 8-Jun-2006 19:02:35
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@jorkany

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(I thought iPods used PPC?)

iPods use neither PPC nor Intel CPU, it uses ARM.



So it's the ARM that got cheaper by moving from PPC to x86?

(I tried to think of something "Arm and a leg" related, but failed to come up with a punchline)

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