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Zylesea 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:18:40
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Apple went for Intel because they get better prices for their iPod CPU's then.


Conspiracy everywhere...

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
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Zylesea 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:21:22
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Okay, very easy. RISC is short for "Reduced Instruction Set Component"...

There you go


So and what does that mean practically?

The PPC has an increased instruction set for a RISC architecture, the x86 processor line is RISC in their ALU. x86 opcodes are translated to RISC opcodes.
The decision RISC/CISC is from earlier days, today it is vanished and gives a tendency at best.

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:21:56
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@pixie

Have a look at Moo... There are plenty of thread saying basically that AOS4 is dead, then some says Morphos is the way to go, some says AROS is the "ONLY" solution...
Like this quote from Dammy:
Quote:
AROS maybe slow in developement, but it's got a future since it's OSS.
Then again, I don't remember seeing a 64 bit verion of OS4 nor MOS.

Doesn't that means that for him AROS is the only one to have any kind of future ?

From XraalE:
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They'd be happier to put their trust in obvious vapor than have anything related to BBRV or Genesi. And that's why OS4 is dead.


Jerry

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:22:29
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oh!!!!!!! finally have u changed your photo!

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:25:35
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@Zylesea

Not necessarily, but new PPC-chips will have better technology and being able to handle instructions in a much better way than in the early days of the RISC-architecture. x86 is actually CISC, which means Complex Instruction Set Components...

 
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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
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you are just another one of the know-it-all type that thinks he knows better.


At least he knows how to have a polite discussion without personally attacking the other party.

As for the "know-it-all" type of person, I'm sure you have lots of experience on that front.

Call me when AmigaOS4 will be a success, then you might have the right to be so condescending with people who have a different opinion than yours.

Hi falemagn,

Yeah, you and your annoying cohorts wouldn't know anything about "condescending" and abusive behaviour, would you? Or of having polite conversations too. We've been wallowing in it from the likes of you for over half a decade now.

How about, since AOS4.0 isn't a success right now you move on to something else that is, and when we are, well, we won't need you around as you were'nt interested in it from the onset.


Support AOS4.0 with constructive comments or don't say anything.

 
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VidarL 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:31:20
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@Rogue

The iPod uses ARM CPUs from PortalPlayer..

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Zylesea 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:32:05
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@Helgis

No, *todays* x86 are RISC processors which *understand* CISC commands.

And sure, coming vapor ppcs will have increased performance, but the same holds true for processors from Intel and AMD.
Don't get me wrong. I like ppc, but in the end it is not too important.
The only real reason in the Amiga context which speaks against x86 is that it cannot handle big endian - which is important for legacy compatibility.

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@afxgroup

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oh!!!!!!! finally have u changed your photo!


Didn't think there was such an interest in my photo?

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
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@afxgroup

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what about a DUAL HELGIS BRAIN machine? not 1gigaflops.. but 1 flops..


With or without HyperThreading?




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Samwel 
Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:36:54
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@Helgis

Please, don't speak of technical things you really don't know about. You'll only get
ridiculed!

I'm talking about the RISC/CISC subject..

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:36:58
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@AmiGame

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Have a look at Moo... There are plenty of thread saying basically that AOS4 is dead, then some says Morphos is the way to go, some says AROS is the "ONLY" solution...


Oh no, are you sure? People that are different opinions or that are even fan-boys of a certain OS?
I'm glad we don't have those evil foes on this very website!

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Forgive me. I forgot the x86-chips from AMD. That might be the one that uses RISC. I would say that AMD is on the right patch here with their x86 chips...

Then again, the Amiga was never about hardware. It's the entire AmigaOS that matters

 
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Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:39:05
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Answered via PM.

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@falemagn

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Didn't think there was such an interest in my photo?


I was already thinking about drawing up a petition to have your old one removed.

"Maybe there's still time to change Fabio's avatar for good."

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Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:43:26
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Answered via PM.

Hi falemagn,

And, why didn't you just post it here? Nothing offensive in your response.


Oh wait, there's proof that you're here to annoy people.

 
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Anonymous 
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@Samwel

Do not underestimate me. I know quite well the meaning of these two...

CISC used to mean that they pull out the instructions in a slower and more complex way, instead of RISC which reduce the instructions by pushing all instructions in a single component in a flexible and fast way. This method is far more effective than the way CISC used to do things. Even x86 has slowly moved towards RISC. AMD might be the one that uses RISC on x86...

 
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Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:44:16
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@AmiGame

Yeah and XraalE is a really objective person.. NOT!

I don't believe for a second that Pegasos is the solution for OS4 in the long run.
The port should have been done 2 years ago. Now it's too late. PegasosII is old
technology today.

Regarding the 64bit part.. Yeah Windows 64bit is the most used version.. NOT!
64bit is not fully there yet so there's still time for OS4 to make the step when
we get a G5, Cell or PASemi motherboard.

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Re: Why AmigaOS Should Be Ported To x86...
Posted on 8-Jun-2006 12:45:33
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@Helgis

It's seem that you can flame a thread in a while. Can you revamp my thread about OS4 on PS3?

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